How do I talk someone out of getting an m3 competition as a first car..

Originally Posted by intelone

Why not let him have the car? Encourage him to do some driving events and track days where he get use to the car at its limit in a safer environment than the streets. Then once on the street he'll be just fine. Help give him the tool to succeed in the car. Like other's have said, jelly much?

Actually that's a good point! I did that at first. I was really excited for him so I recommended to go to a racing course at limerock racetrack. He somehow took this as offense to his "driving skills" and told me he doesn't need any lessons. He then begins telling me he wants my help teaching him to drive a manual. That's when I knew he wasn't ready for the car. He thinks he's a pro driver. Cockiness + m3 zcp = crash.

Let him get it and mess up the car.

live and learn. teenagers think they know everything until they find out the hard way and schmuck up the car.

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Let him get it and mess up the car.

It would teach him a lesson.. Ill just feel bad if he gets hurt and I didn't do anything to stop when I could have

Originally Posted by DimitriGregorio

Actually that's a good point! I did that at first. I was really excited for him so I recommended to go to a racing course at limerock racetrack. He somehow took this as offense to his "driving skills" and told me he doesn't need any lessons. He then begins telling me he wants my help teaching him to drive a manual. That's when I knew he wasn't ready for the car. He thinks he's a pro driver. Cockiness + m3 zcp = crash.

You've done all you could. Its his turn for the initiation of young drivers, albeit in an M3. But in all seriousness the m3 is a grocery getter if the driver wants it to be. If he pushes it, that's on him. Maybe he'll just go over a curve and do a little damage and that'll teach him to appreciate what he has. The car is pretty safe, and the dsc is amazing. I know there is a chance of serious harm, but its more likely he'll lose the car and not himself.

Originally Posted by intelone

You've done all you could. Its his turn for the initiation of young drivers, albeit in an M3. But in all seriousness the m3 is a grocery getter if the driver wants it to be. If he pushes it, that's on him. Maybe he'll just go over a curve and do a little damage and that'll teach him to appreciate what he has. The car is pretty safe, and the dsc is amazing. I know there is a chance of serious harm, but its more likely he'll lose the car and not himself.

Good point. Well ill let him choose what he wants to do. Ill let you guys know if he makes a decision!

I sense a lot of jealousy from OP.

Be happy for your friend.

Originally Posted by NOVAbimmer

I sense a lot of jealousy from OP.

Be happy for your friend.

Noo not at all. I'm happy for him. I just don't want him getting hurt

Ignore all the people claiming jealousy. Even if that was partially the case, everyone has a little here and there. Besides the point it probably isn't the best first car. I think it's beyond anything you can do, just let him get it. Hopefully he doesn't crash the car but the likeliness of crashing your first car is extremely high. The best way to learn is through experience though, GL.

tell him to get a new chevy cruze instead. wicked good gas milage, and it's probably the safest car you can buy at the moment. way more badass for a noob like him.
it's also like the same price

That video is hilarious.

It's a hell of a lot of power for a new driver to control. Also definitely not a car to learn manual on...

He's gonna end up revving high to get it to move, and either burn out his clutch or burn out and slide into something/someone.


I'm not against having an ///M at an early age. I'm 19.
It's just that, with no prior knowledge with a manual transmission, and he's going to attempt to tame that beast? Good luck.

I've talked a buddy out of getting an M because I'm jealous.

So you can tell us the truth

Originally Posted by DimitriGregorio

Noo not at all. I'm happy for him. I just don't want him getting hurt

OP must be in love with this friend of his.
Don't worry, you couple can share the M together.

Originally Posted by MercForHire

OP must be in love with this friend of his.
Don't worry, you couple can share the M together.

Haha noo he's been a family friend since I was like 2. He's my bro

You have tried your best, if he doesnt listen just point him towards driving school or BMWCCA events.
He will learn. Crashing is something he will do even in prius if he not careful. Direct him towards being a good driver than to shoo him away from the M.
Let him register on this site and show some Mango posts and tell him the M will be 3 times more, he will be scared of the maintenance and buy a honda. Mango, I like your posts but there is nothing better than your posts to show how expensive these cars can get in maintenance.

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Let him get it and mess up the car.

I second that! I also would like you to know that it doesn't matter if he knows how to drive the car at that age because of this.

-Even if he can "handle it" he will THINK he is much better than he is
-In HIS mind he is VERY mature and knows more
-Immaturity + ego + M3 + free car = bad
-I'd be jelous as hell, but being jelous doesn't mean that him getting that car isn't STUPID.

The bottom line is a 17 year old KID with a daddy that will buy him an E46 M3, pay to maintain it and all he has to do is drive it means...

Ok I'm done, this is stupid. Kids gonna wreck the car and kill himself, others or both so whatever.

Teach em stick, let him drive the car then he can show everyone his love for nature as his car hugs the nearest tree. Stupid is as stupid does.

Tell him about the maintenance and insurance cost.

Hope he has enough money to replace the clutch after he destroys it.