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Old 12-07-2012, 11:46 PM   #41
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Guys are you sure you ain't mixing pull-up (palms out) with chin-ups (palms in)?
It makes one heck of a difference. Pull-ups are harder, more lat than and less bi's.
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Guys are you sure you ain't mixing pull-up (palms out) with chin-ups (palms in)?
It makes one heck of a difference. Pull-ups are harder, more lat than and less bi's.
Also are we referring to (A) dips that you are basically hanging upright with your arms at your side where you bend at the elbow and feet are dangling in the air or are some of you referring to (B) like bench dips where your heels are touching something such as the ground all the time? Because how are you holding the plate in your lap unless you just have some biiiiiig f'in legs

Thought we were talking about the feet dangly kind... (A)
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:20 AM   #43
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Guys are you sure you ain't mixing pull-up (palms out) with chin-ups (palms in)?
It makes one heck of a difference. Pull-ups are harder, more lat than and less bi's.
We're talking about both! And most of us are pretty strong and can easily rep pull-ups.

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Old 12-08-2012, 02:21 AM   #44
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Also are we referring to (A) dips that you are basically hanging upright with your arms at your side where you bend at the elbow and feet are dangling in the air or are some of you referring to (B) like bench dips where your heels are touching something such as the ground all the time? Because how are you holding the plate in your lap unless you just have some biiiiiig f'in legs

Thought we were talking about the feet dangly kind... (A)
We're referring to (A)! The other ones are much less effective. We go BIG, or we go HOME!
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How are y'all holding plates in your lap... Curiosity mainly. Just with your thighs parallel to the floor with it resting on top?
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:45 AM   #46
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I don't do chins often, but weighted pull-ups is one of my strongest exercises... 160x3
Weighted dips I save for the end of my workout, but still rep out 120x5-8 depending on how I'm feeling.
How many sets with those numbers? Jw
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How are y'all holding plates in your lap... Curiosity mainly. Just with your thighs parallel to the floor with it resting on top?
The only person who mentioned using his lap was snikwad. The rest of us use weight belts that allow you to strap on plates, and we're hanging.

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:00 AM   #48
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Yeah. That's why I mentioned both. The difference in the weight u can dip is huge between the two.

As for pull ups or chin ups. I call them the same thing.
For me I do both. I usually use the cable machines as they have 3 arm positions.
10 sets of each with each plate.
Ben drop 10lbs and repeat.
Yes palms facing in is biceps but when you're going for total reps of 150 plus. All of them become difficult.
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The only person who mentioned using his lap was snikwad. The rest of us use weight belts that allow you to strap on plates, and we're hanging.
Ahhh ok good. My numbers stay the same then! Lol
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:06 PM   #50
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We're talking about both! And most of us are pretty strong and can easily rep pull-ups.
I do (A).
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Also are we referring to (A) dips that you are basically hanging upright with your arms at your side where you bend at the elbow and feet are dangling in the air or are some of you referring to (B) like bench dips where your heels are touching something such as the ground all the time? Because how are you holding the plate in your lap unless you just have some biiiiiig f'in legs

Thought we were talking about the feet dangly kind... (A)
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How many sets with those numbers? Jw
3-4 work sets
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How are y'all holding plates in your lap... Curiosity mainly. Just with your thighs parallel to the floor with it resting on top?
I'm using a weight vest.
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I bought a nylon belt and just bring that with me to the gym.
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I guess you can claim it's just a result of my light weight, but I have been doing sets of dips (10, 8, 6 targets) with a 45 lb plate attached to a belt. Do pulls ups (those same set target numbers) with usually 35 extra lbs.
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I guess you can claim it's just a result of my light weight, but I have been doing sets of dips (10, 8, 6 targets) with a 45 lb plate attached to a belt. Do pulls ups (those same set target numbers) with usually 35 extra lbs.
I don't buy that weight argument. My friends always drop that sh1t on me then I toss 40lbs on and do 10 dips. Most of my 210lb friends can't do 10 dips and they usually are more muscular and strong overall so then I ask them to explain how I can do 210lb dips with less muscle. Some people are just good at certain things.
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I don't buy that weight argument. My friends always drop that sh1t on me then I toss 40lbs on and do 10 dips. Most of my 210lb friends can't do 10 dips and they usually are more muscular and strong overall so then I ask them to explain how I can do 210lb dips with less muscle. Some people are just good at certain things.
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The strange thing is I can do dips with a 45 pound plate between my knees (roughly 195-200 pounds) but can only rep 150-160 on the bench for 10-8-6 reps
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The strange thing is I can do dips with a 45 pound plate between my knees (roughly 195-200 pounds) but can only rep 150-160 on the bench for 10-8-6 reps
Not so strange. In order to have a strong bench, you have to have strong legs/back/shoulders and good form.
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Not so strange. In order to have a strong bench, you have to have strong legs/back/shoulders and good form.
Legs? Never thought about that. I would say my shoulders, for whatever reason, are probably (proportionally) my strongest area. I do military presses (dumbbells or bar) and incline bench with the same weight as a guy who is a solid 50+ pounds heavier than me (and outlifts me in most other exercises)... or maybe it's just that he has weak shoulders
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The strange thing is I can do dips with a 45 pound plate between my knees (roughly 195-200 pounds) but can only rep 150-160 on the bench for 10-8-6 reps
It's such a different movement. Don't think of it like that. I can run way faster than most but probably squat much less. Things are some what related but not always.
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It's such a different movement. Don't think of it like that. I can run way faster than most but probably squat much less. Things are some what related but not always.
I've noticed that as a sprinter, I am running faster now that I'm doing front squats. I feel blazingly quick!
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