Horsepowerfreaks Ethanol Z4M build

Originally Posted by basar13

Thanks bro thank you for feeling my pain.

I want to make a summary of my situation.

There wasnt any plug and play ecu for Z4M and so i wanted to put M3 ecu on my car to use the plug and play ecu of HPF. So i have bought E46 M3 ecu, keys and EWS 2 days later on e46fanatics.com (05-05-2011) Jason (Pro-efi) said


''Anybody who wants to get me a Z4M to do a kit on, I'll give you a smoking deal! Just PM me or email me at jason@proefi.com ''

So i returned the ecu, key and EWS because i thought it was a great news and i was not going to have to work on E46 M3 ecu to work on Z4M.

Then on 05-20-2011 MarcusLSD replied

'' We're bringing the car down this Saturday. ''

That saturday was 05-22-2011.... Friend of Marcus have given his Z4M to Pro-efi to make a plug and play kit so then they were going to sell a ''Z4M plug and play ecu''

I have received the ''Pro-Efi plug and play Z4M kit'' NEXT YEAR ! @05-18-2012 and it was not working. It was also missing igniters and pins. I have paid extra for those but still Pro-efi didn't work and now Jason doesnt take the ecu back claiming that HPF was going to develop and complete the ''kit''. (He didn't take the responsibility and blamed on HPF)

Then i waited for 5 months for Pro-Efi to solve this issue NOTHING HAPPENED! SO i have bought e46 m3 Ecu, key and EWS once again....

Then 7 days later Chris told me that John Reed was going to build the harness and the tune so due to reputation of John Reed i agreed to put my E46 M3 ecu project on hold once again.

Right now everything excluding injectors are installed on car. If i can get a working ecu and the harness my car is good to go. (Didnt install the injectors because i am still using stock ecu.)

Right now it has been 1 year and 5 months since i have been waiting for a plug and play ecu for my Z4M. I wish i had gone to my M3 ecu route.

I have installed the turbo kit on my car 05-26-2012 and since then i cannot use my car. So it has been 6 months... This was the worst part and i hope it ends soon.

Thats it for now lets see how it will go with John Reed. Such a simple thing costed me 1 and a half year.

That wait is enormous. I wish the ProEFI system worked on the Z4M, but we couldn't get it to work either. John Reed was working on the Z4M/AEM harness and was scheduled to come in today to work on the Z4M in our shop. He didn't show so I have no update. He is scheduled to come in tomorrow so we should be getting the Z4M up and running on the AEM very soon.

Chris.

Originally Posted by HPF Chris

That wait is enormous. I wish the ProEFI system worked on the Z4M, but we couldn't get it to work either. John Reed was working on the Z4M/AEM harness and was scheduled to come in today to work on the Z4M in our shop. He didn't show so I have no update. He is scheduled to come in tomorrow so we should be getting the Z4M up and running on the AEM very soon.

Chris.

I can't wait!!! This will be awesome.

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.

Basar,

This case could be solved much earlier.

You should have brought your mz4 to Veysel Usta @ Askar. Thats where my M3s and where Providence's M3 is put together.
They are the best at what they do.

Veysel Usta could have cranked your S54 almost a year ago......

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo_S54

Basar,

This case could be solved much earlier.

You should have brought your mz4 to Veysel Usta @ Askar. Thats where my M3s and where Providence's M3 is put together.
They are the best at what they do.

Veysel Usta could have cranked your S54 almost a year ago......

On what ecu?

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

On what ecu?

Mert has a Pectel,but you can also use Vi-pec,DTA and Vems is also still getting more features like VANOS tuning for a M3 e46.

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

On what ecu?

Marcus,
any ECU. The mechanic who wired in my pectel(s), got one on E36 M3 TT as well, is a "very talented" man.

He can wire in any ECU, meanwhile the project owner needs to work on software.

It took me a 1 full year to understand, use, benefit from features of pectel. Was a learning curve for me.

Originally Posted by dallasberry

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.

Couldn't agree more! We have hit the same issues as HPF, car starts, idles, drives great with minimal load on the car and slight throttle inputs. More than that, it's a big no go. We have found, at least the start of, a few of the issues and how to remedy them doing some tuning to the stock DME. I'm not sure how far it will need to go but we are on this path, and hopefully a path to getting the ProEFI Z4M's to see some boost. We haven't given up, or made excuses, there are definite issues with tuneability and we are combining some of the best brains in the business to try to remedy the issue. No updates from us is a good update honestly, that means we haven't been stumped I can't say when but I am 100% confident that our Z4M with a properly tuned stock DME and properly tuned ProEFI can produce some great results!

I wish Basar and HPF now headed down the AEM route the best of luck!

-Shawn-

Serious updates next week.....

That's one way to do it, lol

So no more ABS and dash?

Powwwww!!! Go Basar..... Can't wait to see thing this kick ass!!!

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

So no more ABS and dash?

Or DBW, or VANOS.

I suspect he is building something HE will be comfortable tuning.

Originally Posted by PEI330Ci

I suspect he is building something HE will be comfortable tuning.

I thought HPF was doing the tuning? Isn't that why Basar has been waiting for the last few months?

Hmmmmm.....

With HPF's loss of their own tuning...it feels like they're out of the game. I would imagine John Reed has his own business keeping him busy enough and probably doesn't have the time to devote on a contract only basis...can't blame Basar for being fed up that's for sure. He's been more than patient.

Isi sanslar

Originally Posted by Beedub

Powwwww!!! Go Basar..... Can't wait to see thing this kick ass!!!

Cheers the long wait is coming to an end hopefully.
I wish luck to both other turbo Z4M owners.
Thanks for the consistent support i appreciate that.

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

So no more ABS and dash?

Both will be working bro.

Originally Posted by mike@maximumpsi

That's one way to do it, lol

Originally Posted by PEI330Ci

Or DBW, or VANOS.

I suspect he is building something HE will be comfortable tuning.

Well there are advantages and disadvantages for not using vanos. For my situation i believe i am better off without it. I wonder how bad the spool of the turbo will be effected. I have a smaller intercooler than HPF M3's but i guess we still can get a idea about it. I will also try it with same level of ignition timing as HPF cars.

Originally Posted by BMW E465

Isi sanslar

Tesekkurler

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

With HPF's loss of their own tuning...it feels like they're out of the game. I would imagine John Reed has his own business keeping him busy enough and probably doesn't have the time to devote on a contract only basis...can't blame Basar for being fed up that's for sure. He's been more than patient.

Yeah, i hope they solve it soon. One other reason i choose this route is i didnt want wasted spark system. Hopefully my ignition coils wont get hot as the HPF cars.

Originally Posted by basar13

One other reason i choose this route is i didnt want wasted spark system. Hopefully my ignition coils wont get hot as the HPF cars.

I was wondering when that point would be brought up.

Technically, as long as the hardware can handle it, there's no difference. But of course in the real world, you double the work that the coil packs are doing...and there are different results from that.

Originally Posted by basar13

Cheers the long wait is coming to an end hopefully.
I wish luck to both other turbo Z4M owners.
Thanks for the consistent support i appreciate that.



Both will be working bro.









Well there are advantages and disadvantages for not using vanos. For my situation i believe i am better off without it. I wonder how bad the spool of the turbo will be effected. I have a smaller intercooler than HPF M3's but i guess we still can get a idea about it. I will also try it with same level of ignition timing as HPF cars.



Tesekkurler




Yeah, i hope they solve it soon. One other reason i choose this route is i didnt want wasted spark system. Hopefully my ignition coils wont get hot as the HPF cars.

So what is controlling the ABS and dash, are you doing piggy back? Or have you reverse engineered the CAN bus?

Just saw this...look awesome. Can only imagine how great this is going to turn out.