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Old 12-20-2012, 10:32 AM   #41
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They can't get enough of him, what exactly has he done this year?
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Does Time name every guy who wins the election man of the year, or just the guys that they suck off
Did I just hear some Jimmy Rustling?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:38 AM   #42
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:41 AM   #43
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Penalize those who succeeded to support those who didn't make an effort. No logic anymore.
Echoes of that same "47%" ideology that played such a large part in the GOPs dismal 2012 election results. Doesn't seem logical to stick with such a loosing formulation, anymore.

Re: Obama's MOTY choice -- kind of a safe one, though he and the party he led did succeed rather well in an election that, by many historical standards, he shouldn't have, a fairly substantial vindication of his policies and leadership.

Perhaps in some ways, it was the inverse that was also true, i.e., it wasn't simply the positive aspects of Obama and his/Dem policies but rather the utter dreadfullness of the GOP and its policies and candidates that allowed Obama to win reelection.

I don't recall if Time has a Chump(s) of the Year.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 AM   #44
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Did I just hear some Jimmy Rustling?
I voted for a sure loser, Gary Johnson. I just would like Time to recognize that it does not partake in journalism, but instead propaganda.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:01 AM   #45
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Surely you can see why Time chose an illegitimate half-breed who handed the entire rightwing machine its ass and won a second term in the White House?
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I voted for a sure loser, Gary Johnson. I just would like Time to recognize that it does not partake in journalism, but instead propaganda.
How so?
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How so?
I got an absentee ballet, filled in the box for gary johnson, mailed it in.
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I got an absentee ballet, filled in the box for gary johnson, mailed it in.
How is it propaganda?
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:31 AM   #49
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/world/...kes/index.html

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When did Obama get his drone license?
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Who is blaming "too much liberty"? The second part definitely has some validity, but you have to take into account that every president kills. It's part of the job.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:24 PM   #52
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When did Obama get his drone license?
Well hitler never turned on the gas knob either, that doesn't mean he didn't kill innocent people...
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Well hitler never turned on the gas knob either, that doesn't mean he didn't kill innocent people...
Hitler had those gas chambers built specifically to murder innocent people. Are you insinuating that the attack drones were specifically built to murder innocent people as well?
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Hitler had those gas chambers built specifically to murder innocent people. Are you insinuating that the attack drones were specifically built to murder innocent people as well?
No I'm not. Good point, but do u really think the drones were built with the guarantee that they wouldn't kill innocent people? Or do u chalk this up to casualties of war and no one takes the blame?
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No I'm not. Good point, but do u really think the drones were built with the guarantee that they wouldn't kill innocent people? Or do u chalk this up to casualties of war and no one takes the blame?
In a perfect world they only kill the bad guys. Arguably, that in and of itself is a subjective practice (i.e., classifying someone a "bad guy"). Given that we do not live in a perfect world and the nature of deeming a person a "bad guy" leads to the inevitable collateral damage, the worst of which is the death of innocent people, it's difficult to say who actually receives the blame.

I was simply pointing out that your parallel lacks merit.
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In a perfect world they only kill the bad guys. Arguably, that in and of itself is a subjective practice (i.e., classifying someone a "bad guy"). Given that we do not live in a perfect world and the nature of deeming a person a "bad guy" leads to the inevitable collateral damage, the worst of which is the death of innocent people, it's difficult to say who actually receives the blame.

I was simply pointing out that your parallel lacks merit.
Well then technically hitler didn't PHYSICALLY build the chambers himself... Just like Obama didnt physically build the drone... The similarity (my parallel that "lacks merit") is they both ORDERED the strike/gassing.
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You didn't look at the other candidates I'm assuming?
Apparently you didn't, which is why you haven't answered my question.
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Well then technically hitler didn't PHYSICALLY build the chambers himself... Just like Obama didnt physically build the drone... The similarity (my parallel that "lacks merit") is they both ORDERED the strike/gassing.
They both gave an order. One was to round up millions of Jews and kill them. The other was to press "fire" on a baddie where some innocent people were killed unintentionally.

Totally the same.
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They both gave an order. One was to round up millions of Jews and kill them. The other was to press "fire" on a baddie where some innocent people were killed unintentionally.

Totally the same.
Lol okay okay, they aren't the same. Obviously. But the comment I originally was commenting on was the "when did Obama get his drone license"... I'm saying just because he didn't physically kill those people, he still should be held responsible for making that poor decision.
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