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Old 12-20-2012, 06:46 PM   #41
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #42
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A turbo COMPRESSES the air, effectively increasing the displacement of an engine. The difference is a turbo is power on demand, so a small engine is still a small engine until more power is needed, whereas a larger displacement engine is going to continue to use more air and fuel that may be necessary to maintain its own momentum.
I know how a turbo/ supercharger work.... Im talking about when the Engine isnt Under boost, A turbo isnt Power on demand, Having a supercharger is on demand
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:48 PM   #43
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Economy cars are meant to be economical to buy and run. If you want the best fuel economy, spend more money for a hybrid or electric car.

Turbos also don't give you better fuel economy. They just push more air into the engine.




That is possibly one of the dumbest things I've read on E46Fanatics in a while.
I dont know why you have such a big problem with me but you clearly Miss understood what i meant. I was talking about when the Engine isnt under any boost or very low boost. Im an VERY aware about how turbos/Super chargers work and probably know just as much about them as you do. Ive had to take them apart and fix them on my trucks on the side of the road when they have failed in Minus 40 F On my big rigs Or when ive had problems with my old detroit 2 cycle supercharged motors So i do know a thing or two and im not by any means new to the game.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #44
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Turbo engines also tend to weigh less than naturally aspirated engines with the same power output.

I think the only reason we're not seeing more is just due to lack of development. If you look back a few years ago, the new turbo engines coming out weren't at all optimized for fuel efficiency. Mitsubishi, Subaru, Mazda - none of the 2000's generation engines were particularly clean or thrifty. Interestingly, Subaru's latest 'base' engine that they introduced to improve efficiency is NA.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:12 PM   #45
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I know how a turbo/ supercharger work.... Im talking about when the Engine isnt Under boost, A turbo isnt Power on demand, Having a supercharger is on demand
Um...yes...it is and no...you clearly don't.
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Um...yes...it is and no...you clearly don't.
Your an idiot. Have you even driven a trubo charged car? Ever heard of turbo lag? A super charged car has no lag, Motor spins the belt car its more power instantly. A turbo waits for exhaust gasses to spin it up and takes time to do so.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:18 PM   #48
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your inability to correctly use "you're" is frightening.
Yet you cant even capitalize.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:20 PM   #49
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Your an idiot. Have you even driven a trubo charged car? Ever heard of Turbo lag? A super charged car has no lag, Motor spins the belt Car its more power instantly. A turbo Waits for exhaust gasses to spin it up and takes time to do so
Owned 4, tuned all 4, including a meth/water injected build.

You should consider the meaning of power on demand. When you demand power, a turbo or supercharger provides it via denser compressed air. When you don't demand it, it doesn't compress it. Very simple. Turbo lag doesn't mean it's no longer providing power when you demand it.

You claimed that it atomizes the air which helps it burn better and now you're calling me and idiot? You should learn when to throw in your cards. You were bluffing, you got called on it.
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Your an idiot. Have you even driven a trubo charged car? Ever heard of turbo lag? A super charged car has no lag, Motor spins the belt car its more power instantly. A turbo waits for exhaust gasses to spin it up and takes time to do so.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:24 PM   #51
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Owned 4, tuned all 4, including a meth/water injected build.

You should consider the meaning of power on demand. When you demand power, a turbo or supercharger provides it via denser compressed air. When you don't demand it, it doesn't compress it. Very simple. Turbo lag doesn't mean it's no longer providing power when you demand it.
If you want to nit pick, sure while your waiting for it to spool its giving you slightly more power than stock while the turbine is speeding up to full boost. I consider power on demand to be all the power when you put your foot down Not waiting for it to build boost, We have two different versions of "Power on demand"
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I know how a turbo/ supercharger work.... Im talking about when the Engine isnt Under boost, A turbo isnt Power on demand, Having a supercharger is on demand
I think the issue here is that we all would like to know what "atomizing air" means.
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If you want to nit pick, sure while your waiting for it to spool its giving you slightly more power than stock while the turbine is speeding up to full boost. I consider power on demand to be all the power when you put your foot down Not waiting for it to build boost, We have two different versions of "Power on demand"
Well, perhaps you should have considered the context of a thread in which we are discussing a turbo's use in an "econobox" versus a naturally aspirated "econobox".

An intelligent person would have deduced that the concept of having power on demand with a turbo would be referring to a turbo's ability to provide power on demand where a naturally aspirated smaller engine cannot.

But that's assuming I'm talking to an intelligent person. Clearly I assumed too much.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:35 PM   #54
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Well, perhaps you should have considered the context of a thread in which we are discussing a turbo's use in an "econobox" versus a naturally aspirated "econobox".

An intelligent person would have deduced that the concept of having power on demand with a turbo would be referring to a turbo's ability to provide power on demand where a naturally aspirated smaller engine cannot.

But that's assuming I'm talking to an intelligent person. Clearly I assumed too much.
Does trying to insult me make you feel better about yourself? Great. I didnt say you where wrong nor was I. I said coming into the conversation we didnt understand what each other meant. There is no need to try an insult me, If you felt like trying to teach me/ Help me understand something there is much better ways to do so since helping others is what this forum is about. Like i said we had two differnt versions of "power on demand"
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:47 PM   #57
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I think the issue here is that we all would like to know what "atomizing air" means.
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Does trying to insult me make you feel better about yourself? Great.
I've been on the internet every day for at least the last 15 years of my life. If I felt better every time I encountered and pointed out someone that was attempting to discuss a topic over their IQ range, I'd be the happiest person on the planet.

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I didnt say you where wrong nor was I.
I think calling someone an idiot counts, and yes, you most certainly were.

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I said coming into the conversation we didnt understand what each other meant.
No, you came into the conversation calling me an idiot.

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There is no need to try an insult me, If you felt like trying to teach me/ Help me understand something there is much better ways to do so since helping others is what this forum is about. Like i said we had two differnt versions of "power on demand"
If you want to learn something, sit back quietly and read what others have to say instead of attempting to inject your worthless .02 and then call people idiots when they correct you.
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