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Old 12-20-2012, 06:08 PM   #61
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Higher taxes are needed. Across the board. La-dee-dah-dee-every-body should be paying higher taxes than we have been.

There's been a war going on for the past decade, yet we've been enjoying tremendously low tax rates the entire time. Regardless of whether it was a popular war or not, our elected officials sent us (us being the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines) there, but decided to take the "buy now, pay later" option. Whatever reason you want to throw out there, it doesn't matter.

We haven't paid for these wars, we've just been running up the charge card. And realistically, no manageable, realistic tax rate could have covered the costs of this war without a deficit, but now that the wars are drawing down, we need to start paying for them.

Across the board tax hikes. America hasn't been at war. The military has been at war. America has been at the mall.
Which is why we need to stop waging wars and bring our military home where they belong.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:35 PM   #62
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Looks like it didn't work out well for Boehner tonight.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:19 PM   #63
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Looks like it didn't work out well for Boehner tonight.
Yep, it didn't.

This asshat is such an epic failure that he can't rally his own troops behind him. Yet he stands in the way of a legislation that the majority of people are known to support.

Boehner is a colossal waste of national resources and needs to go away. He's a caveman and an intellectual gerbil.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/us...plan.html?_r=0

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/20/politi...iff/index.html

What a joker..
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:25 PM   #64
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Yep, it didn't.

This asshat is such an epic failure that he can't rally his own troops behind him. Yet he stands in the way of a legislation that the majority of people are known to support.

Boehner is a colossal waste of national resources and needs to go away. He's a caveman and an intellectual gerbil.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/us...plan.html?_r=0

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/20/politi...iff/index.html

What a joker..
He Vetos his own bill because he didn't have the votes. One of the worst speakers I've ever seen.

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:50 PM   #65
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Fair? The taxes are mostly already paid by these people. How about curtailing spending?

There is nothing sustainable about the current path. The revenue generated from what Obama wants would be akin to spitting in the ocean if they kept spending even static. Given the proposed spending increases, it would make even less of a difference.

Also, referring to public polls as an ok to policy is hilarious as I'm sure your opinions on gay marriage and abortion would not change if most people were against them...polling by convenience for you huh?
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52 PM   #66
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He Vetos his own bill because he didn't have the votes.
What a nutjob.. To think this man represents the best of the GOP boggles the mind

Absolutely un-****in'-believable.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:57 PM   #67
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It would have been vetoed anyways. The 250K was low, the 1 million is high just meet at 500k and sign the damn thing.
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This a$$hole wasted three precious days of legislation with a non-starter plan that he expected to put pressure on the White House and Senate.

What a joker.

It's not about $250k or $1mil. anymore - Everyone is clearly on board with one plan. Congress is ready to support the Senate bill but this Boehner moron is intent on cockblocking..

In fact, Boehner is the single obstruction holding up avoiding the fiscal cliff.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:30 PM   #69
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This a$$hole wasted three precious days of legislation with a non-starter plan that he expected to put pressure on the White House and Senate.

What a joker.

It's not about $250k or $1mil. anymore - Everyone is clearly on board with one plan. Congress is ready to support the Senate bill but this Boehner moron is intent on cockblocking..

In fact, Boehner is the single obstruction holding up avoiding the fiscal cliff.
There is still 12 days, the fiscal cliff will not happen. As far as I am concerned, keep all these ass holes in office as long as we can so they get a shorter break for the Holidays lol..250K is pretty low though.. Why even waste the time when it will be vetoed anyways?
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Why even waste the time when it will be vetoed anyways?
That's exactly what I say.. Why would any sane person waste the last three days trying to push a bill only to veto it before it even goes to vote?
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It would have been vetoed anyways. The 250K was low, the 1 million is high just meet at 500k and sign the damn thing.
250k is still middle class, it's inane to lump them in with actual rich people. If anyone's been paying attention, we went from $1 million under Clinton to $250k, if you don't think 150k is next you got another thing coming.

p.s - everyone probably needs to pay more and drastic spending cuts are needed. It has already been established that a 100% tax on the rich wouldn't solve our problems.
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250k is still middle class, it's inane to lump them in with actual rich people. If anyone's been paying attention, we went from $1 million under Clinton to $250k, if you don't think 150k is next you got another thing coming.

p.s - everyone probably needs to pay more and drastic spending cuts are needed. It has already been established that a 100% tax on the rich wouldn't solve our problems.
I agree. Pretty low. There are a lot of joint income owners and perhaps single income earners (doctors, surgeons, VPs, etc.) easily at that threshold. I wouldn't consider that rich. That is high side middle class these days.
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That's exactly what I say.. Why would any sane person waste the last three days trying to push a bill only to veto it before it even goes to vote?

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250k is still middle class, it's inane to lump them in with actual rich people. If anyone's been paying attention, we went from $1 million under Clinton to $250k, if you don't think 150k is next you got another thing coming.

p.s - everyone probably needs to pay more and drastic spending cuts are needed. It has already been established that a 100% tax on the rich wouldn't solve our problems.
But why was he wasting time with a vote that will be vetoed? Do you think an agreement can be meet for 500K? The 250K is ridiculous, if I remember correctly Biden said they were going to raise taxes on million and above during the debates.
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But why was he wasting time with a vote that will be vetoed? Do you think an agreement can be meet for 500K? The 250K is ridiculous, if I remember correctly Biden said they were going to raise taxes on million and above during the debates.
A million makes sense and is indisputably rich in any cost of living area
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