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Old 12-21-2012, 11:38 AM   #41
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:46 AM   #42
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love when people talk out there ass....especially since the F30 335i is also powered by the N55, which was in the later E90 335i. so then is the f30 328i as fast as an F30 335i? because that would make total sense.....

LOL!! That is all...
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:42 PM   #43
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The numbers between the N54 335i and the N20 328i are almost identical. If you want to rationalize to yourself why your vehicle is better then it's your prerogative.
My prerogative is to use facts to back up my argument against off-base claims like yours:

2012 BMW 328i:
0-60 (sec): 5.9 (6.7 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.5 (6.3 w/ TC on)

2011 BMW 335i (N55):
0-60 (sec): 4.7

2007 BMW 335i (N54):
0-60 (sec): 4.8

Fact, not opinion

Listen, I am a BMW fan...I like them all. I'm not bashing the F30 328i by any means...I'm just saying based on the numbers above, the 328i is about a second slower 0-60. That is all.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:47 PM   #44
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No stock for stock. The 8 speed helps tremendously. Especially in sport mode. Pulls relentlessly at any rpm in any gear.

We put an f30 328i against an e90 335i. Both stock and auto.

The f30 won.
yeah right, so a single turbo 4 banger makes the same power as a TT I6?? riiiiight
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:47 PM   #45
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:03 PM   #46
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My prerogative is to use facts to back up my argument against off-base claims like yours:

2012 BMW 328i:
0-60 (sec): 5.9 (6.7 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.5 (6.3 w/ TC on)

2011 BMW 335i (N55):
0-60 (sec): 4.7

2007 BMW 335i (N54):
0-60 (sec): 4.8

Fact, not opinion

Listen, I am a BMW fan...I like them all. I'm not bashing the F30 328i by any means...I'm just saying based on the numbers above, the 328i is about a second slower 0-60. That is all.
You're quoting 0-60 times for the 328i with traction control on?
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #48
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You're quoting 0-60 times for the 328i with traction control on?
Can you read properly? it says 5.5 seconds (6.3 with TC on)
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #49
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In stock form, I would take the N55 over the N54. It's more refined, and I found that the torque comes in sooner. If I had plans to modify the car/engine, I would take the N54. More tuning potential, more aftermarket support. I like the N20. I think it's a great engine with lots of potential. Would be cool in a 128i.
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Were the 1 Series a bit smaller and much lighter, I think the N20 would make for the perfect 128TTi. As for any 3 Series, ante in starts with six cylinders, period.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:25 PM   #51
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The numbers between the N54 335i and the N20 328i are almost identical. If you want to rationalize to yourself why your vehicle is better then it's your prerogative.
no.

the N20 is a nice little engine though, and it my wifes new car, pulls harder than her previous e92 328 with the N52. I like the engine.

that said, the F30 doesnt post faster times than the N54 335s.....
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no.

the N20 is a nice little engine though, and it my wifes new car, pulls harder than her previous e92 328 with the N52. I like the engine.

that said, the F30 doesnt post faster times than the N54 335s.....
Lol for real, anyone that thinks a 4 cylinder is faster than a TT inline 6 is just plain dumb eg ///M power
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:15 AM   #53
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The numbers between the N54 335i and the N20 328i are almost identical. If you want to rationalize to yourself why your vehicle is better then it's your prerogative.
Not when you drive both cars back to back. I test drove both cars, and while the 328i is quick, 335i feels much quicker, although yes, the numbers are close (0-60 times, at least). At high speed, 335i keeps pulling. I'm not in the US, so i drove both cars at their limits without getting into trouble with the authorities. The 335i reached 260 kmh (around 160 mph) easily. Using a gps, it's probably 155 mph give or take, but the 335i reached that speed much more quickly than the 328i, or at least i felt that way. Both cars are still faster than both my e46 and e60 though And theyre both more comfortable than my e60 in stock form.

N20 is an amazing engine. It's everything a good engine should be: powerful and fuel efficient. If some of you feel the car lacks soul or whatever, it's not the engine's fault. It's the chassis, including the steering, tires (the 328i i drove had goodyear efficientgrip tires), etc. I dont care much about the so-called diesel engine noise at idle. Just blast the stereo.

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Old 12-22-2012, 11:24 AM   #54
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Lol for real, anyone that thinks a 4 cylinder is faster than a TT inline 6 is just plain dumb eg ///M power
I bet this guy would make any N54 owner on here look like a fool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=gwA4LRieqMQ


Never underestimate the potential of a 4-cylinder.

But stock for stock? I find it hard to believe that a 4-cyl turbo engine can keep up with a 6-cyl TT, as stated by many.
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I bet this guy would make any N54 owner on here look like a fool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=gwA4LRieqMQ


Never underestimate the potential of a 4-cylinder.

But stock for stock? I find it hard to believe that a 4-cyl turbo engine can keep up with a 6-cyl TT, as stated by many.
But thats an evo......not a BMW, evo engines have magical powers, the N20 doesn't.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:40 PM   #56
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But thats an evo......not a BMW, evo engines have magical powers, the N20 doesn't.
N20 engine has potential, just like every other turbo engine. But then again, n54 has even more potential, even more than n55
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