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Old 12-29-2012, 07:39 PM   #301
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Rational fear.

When you die, you'll no longer be allowed to own an assault weapon. Truly a travesty.
I would like to pass them on to my kids just like any other property. How would you like a govt telling you what cant be handed down to your children?

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Old 12-29-2012, 08:10 PM   #302
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I would like to pass them on to my kids just like any other property. How would you like a govt telling you what cant be handed down to your children?
Won't bother me at all. I'll be dead.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:18 PM   #303
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Perhaps to turn the question a bit then, should we then also be allowed to possess F-22s, M1 tanks, ballistic missiles and nuclear arms to provide a more or less equal counter to what our own government possesses? Isn't stopping at allowing assault rifles an essentially meaninglessly minute step beyond allowing only single-shot weapons in creating some armed parity with what our government fields?

Should the Federal Gubment roll up to your front door in an M1 to take your freedoms, a Bushmaster is as useless as grand daddy's single shot squirrel gun, presuming the JDAM dropped by aforementioned F-22 didn't already turn your home into a smoking crater.

Or is the whole concept propounded by some that the basic purpose/function of the Second Amendment is to create an armed parity with our own government -- as opposed to external threats -- problematical?

And why then is that “well-regulated militia” phrase even in the Second Amendment if it basically carries no import in understanding the Amendment in full?

Just like an AR15 is a "detuned" military weapon, you can also legally own "detuned" military hardware, including choppers, tanks, and planes. Now, if you are skilled and psycho enough to re-arm them (breaking the law) they so be it, but you can own military hardware. Hell, even in england, you can buy any toy you want from their military surplus yards.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #304
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the revolutionary war, the civil war.

and your right this is the united states of america. it isnt the middle east or korea. neither was germany or russia. im sorry to hear that you are naive enough to think that this cant happen here.
The dumbest thing anyone could possible think...it can never happen here...many said this before 9/11 too.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:26 PM   #305
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I've been hearing that hysteria my entire life - and I'm old.


When is it going to happen?
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I've been hearing that hysteria my entire life - and I'm old.


When is it going to happen?
I never said it will. I said it might. Saying something as dumb as "it can never happen here" is almost a guarantee that it will.

Im with you on this...the government will never take away guns in this country. If they tried, it would start a civil war overnight. Guess which side will win?
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Won't bother me at all. I'll be dead.
Yea thats a good point
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:37 PM   #308
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I've been hearing that hysteria my entire life - and I'm old.


When is it going to happen?
Hopefully never. This country needs to be united, enough already. We cant agree on budgets, taxes, laws, civil rights, etc.

This needs to end now!
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Ridiculous analogy is ridiculous.

When a semi t-bones you at 100 mph, you will die, no matter how low and tight your seatbelt is and despite what NHTSA said about the crash rating of your car.

Does that mean you won't bother wearing a seat belt and will disregard safety ratings when car shopping?

Again, you pick on words (or a sentence) out of context. Is that all you do?
Yes, that one sentence, in itself makes no sense and is ridiculous.
But it was by design. To show a point. Congratulations, you got half the point.
Read the context in which that was introduced.
HINT: that sentence is what a prepper would say, and that's how they justify what they do.
I get tired answering you. I will no longer.
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our thought process lies within our knowledge of history

look at any dictatorship or tyrannical government that has disarmed the populace in the past. look at the laws and bills in place right now, the NFA is already an infringement on the second amendment and it is ever expanding, the patriot act steps all over a number of our other rights in the name of "security". the united states is exhibiting the signs that other countries have when transitioning to a more tyrannical government.

its not just all in our heads, we're not making it up. this can be proven through history and facts. wake up dude. look at what happened in germany, russia, syria, korea etc....
Can you cite a relatively modern country that disarmed it's civilian population as a crucial step to a dictatorship or tyrannical govt taking over?

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Again, you pick on words (or a sentence) out of context. Is that all you do?
Yes, that one sentence, in itself makes no sense and is ridiculous.
But it was by design. To show a point. Congratulations, you got half the point.
Read the context in which that was introduced.
HINT: that sentence is what a prepper would say, and that's how they justify what they do.
I get tired answering you. I will no longer.
So you're claiming that a prepper would say that their preparation is futile? Interesting.
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Won't bother me at all. I'll be dead.
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