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Old 12-28-2012, 05:25 PM   #61
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And Obama presumably is just lounging on some beach drinking beer his whole vacations?
That is correct.

Partly correct........Muslims don't drink alcohol
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:27 PM   #62
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Personal responsibility...some have and some don't. Not too difficult to figure out at this point who is who.
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Only a tin foil ass hat imbecile who drools on himself would believe Bush, who publicly embarrassed himself multiples times, came under scruninty for his education would successfully conspire congress and all Americans to go to war.

Words cannot express my sorrow for someone who actually believes in conspiracy theories. I remember my first enlightening YouTube video.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #63
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Only a tin foil ass hat imbecile who drools on himself would believe Bush, who publicly embarrassed himself multiples times, came under scruninty for his education would successfully conspire congress and all Americans to go to war.

Words cannot express my sorrow for someone who actually believes in conspiracy theories. I remember my first enlightening YouTube video.
Yeah?

Show us those weapons of mass destruction.

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Yeah?

Show us those weapons of mass destruction.

So you're telling me Bush who premeditated this elaborate charade and tricked congress, the american people and the world didn't come to a realization that people would eventually NOT find WMDs? Do you think being the huge conspirators that Bush & Co are they would plant at least one WMD? I mean this is his first term and this would look bad for re-election..Real bad.

Or maybe there were WMDs and the intelligence was accurate and Saddam was harboring WMD and terrorists, I mean every fvcking country has a nuke..Luckily Bush was not concerned about the 51% being water head retarded conspiracists come election day. Do you listen to yourself? On a probability chart, your needle lies on retarded.
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On a phantom WMD chart, my needle lies on 100. Yours is on zero.

Congrats on buying the lies. People like you made it all possible, and BushCo counts on your continued support.

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1.) Idgaf if Obama went on vacation. He probably works 24/7. And I hate Obama and his policies, so I would normally love to complain about what he does - but this is stupid.

2.) Let's go off the cliff. Obama had the cojones to tell Congress "there is no getting around sequestration". And now, they are looking for a way to get around sequestration. We need tax increases. We need spending cuts. The cliff does both. So let's jump. Let's jump off 3 fiscal cliffs until our deficit is "zero". We have to pay the piper someday. May as well be this year and get it over with.
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1.) Idgaf if Obama went on vacation. He probably works 24/7. And I hate Obama and his policies, so I would normally love to complain about what he does - but this is stupid.

2.) Let's go off the cliff. Obama had the cojones to tell Congress "there is no getting around sequestration". And now, they are looking for a way to get around sequestration. We need tax increases. We need spending cuts. The cliff does both. So let's jump. Let's jump off 3 fiscal cliffs until our deficit is "zero". We have to pay the piper someday. May as well be this year and get it over with.
I'm with eye guy.

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2.) Let's go off the cliff. Obama had the cojones to tell Congress "there is no getting around sequestration". And now, they are looking for a way to get around sequestration. We need tax increases. We need spending cuts. The cliff does both. So let's jump. Let's jump off 3 fiscal cliffs until our deficit is "zero". We have to pay the piper someday. May as well be this year and get it over with.

I wonder if Obama and Congress privately want to go off the cliff and allow the spending cuts to kick in. It would be an easy way for cuts to be made without anyone having to assume responsibility.
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All eyes on them, Senate leaders seek fiscal deal

WASHINGTON (AP) Senate leaders rushed to assemble a last-ditch agreement to avoid middle-class tax increases and possibly delay steep spending cuts in an urgent attempt to find common ground after weeks of postelection gridlock.

An impatient President Barack Obama pressed top lawmakers to cut a deal, even one that falls short of the ambitions he and congressional leaders may once have harbored for a bigger deficit reduction package. Without a resolution, he warned, "every American's paycheck will get a lot smaller."

"Congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now," he said in his weekly Saturday radio and internet address.

Following a White House meeting Friday among Obama and congressional leaders, aides to Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., began racing against the clock for a bipartisan bargain. The leaders could present legislation to senators as early as Sunday, with a vote possible on Sunday or Monday.

The guest list for the White House meeting included Reid, McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. But the key players were clearly Reid and McConnell, both of whom stayed behind briefly at the White House and huddled with their staffs and Obama's top legislative aide, Rob Nabors, in the West Wing Cabinet Room just outside the Oval Office.

Neither side expected compromise to be easy. However, McConnell and Reid voiced unexpected optimism that they could work toward a deal that could win support in both their camps.

Warned Reid: "Whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect."

Looking to add pressure on negotiators, Obama said that absent a compromise he expects Reid to put legislation on the floor to prevent tax increases on the middle class and extend unemployment benefits an implicit challenge to Republicans to dare to vote against what polls show is popular.

Speaking for Republicans in a Saturday radio address, Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri sought to put the burden of a deal on Obama and Reid.

"We still can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and the Democrat-controlled Senate step forward this week and work with Republicans to solve this problem and solve it now," he said.

Whatever manages to pass in the Senate, with its Democratic majority, would then face a second test in the Republican-controlled House.

Boehner, a Republican speaker who has struggled recently with anti-tax rebels inside his own party, said through an aide that he would await the results of the talks between the Senate and White House. A House vote could come as late as Wednesday, the final full day before a new Congress takes office.

Officials said there was a general understanding that any agreement would block scheduled income tax increases for middle-class earners while letting rates rise at upper-income levels.

Obama was sticking to his campaign call for increases above $250,000 in annual income, even though in recent negotiations he said he could accept $400,000.

The two sides also confronted a divide over estate taxes. Obama favors a higher tax than is currently in effect, but one senior Republican, Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, said he's "totally dead set" against it. Speaking of fellow GOP lawmakers, he said they harbor more opposition to an increase in the estate tax than to letting taxes on income and investments rise at upper levels.

But the estate tax was more likely to be used as a possible bargaining chip that Democrats could give away in exchange for higher rates for top earners and other Obama priorities.

Obama and Democrats want to prevent the expiration of unemployment benefits for about 2 million long-term jobless men and women, and there is widespread sentiment in both parties to shelter doctors from a 27 percent cut in Medicare fees.

Also likely to be included in the negotiations are taxes on dividends and capital gains, both of which are scheduled to rise with the new year. Also the alternative minimum tax, which, if left unchanged, could hit an estimated 28 million households for the first time and mean an average increase of more than $3,000.

The White House has shown increased concern about a possible doubling of milk prices if a farm bill is not passed in the next few days, although it is not clear whether that issue too might be included in the talks.

One Republican who was briefed on the White House meeting said Boehner made it clear he would leave in place spending cuts scheduled to take effect unless alternative savings were included in any compromise to offset them. In previous White House proposals, Obama has suggested finding enough cuts in government spending to put off the steeper cuts for up to six months.

Obama, speaking to reporters following his meeting with the congressional leaders, faulted a system that left crucial decisions to the last minute, a way of governing that he said the public finds "mindboggling."

"Outside of Washington nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again," he said.

Still, Obama himself is part of the negotiating process, and his meeting with all four top leaders Friday was the first since Nov. 16. A phone call he placed Wednesday night to McConnell was the first the Republican leader had received from a Democrat on the fiscal talks since Thanksgiving.

Looking to add pressure on negotiators, Obama said he expects Reid to put legislation on the floor to prevent tax increases on the middle class and extend unemployment benefits an implicit challenge to Republicans to dare to vote against what polls show is popular.

The start of negotiations in the Senate marked a new endgame for discussions that have moved in fits and starts since the November election.

Boehner refused for weeks to accept any rate increases, and simultaneously accused Obama of skimping on the spending cuts he would support as part of a balanced deal to reduce deficits, remove the threat of spending cuts and prevent the across-the-board tax cuts.

Last week, the Ohio Republican presented a Plan B measure that would have let rates rise on million-dollar earners, well above Obama's latest offer for a $400,000 threshold.

Facing defeat, Boehner scrapped plans for a vote, leaving the economy on track for the cliff that political leaders in both parties had said they could avoid.

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I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories but I'm with Lair on this one. It's not related to the topic, but Bush and Co. were definitely not shooting straight on the WMD story. It was that or a massive intelligence failure. Like historic, epic massive. I don't believe that was the case, and take that in context of the huge oil money and oil lobbying from the Great State of Texas..

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So you're telling me Bush who premeditated this elaborate charade and tricked congress, the american people and the world didn't come to a realization that people would eventually NOT find WMDs? Do you think being the huge conspirators that Bush & Co are they would plant at least one WMD? I mean this is his first term and this would look bad for re-election..Real bad.

Or maybe there were WMDs and the intelligence was accurate and Saddam was harboring WMD and terrorists, I mean every fvcking country has a nuke..
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And you cynics are pretty much forgetting that a 'vacation' for CIC is only a vacation in name. I'm sure like every other Prez, he's tied up in the thick of matters for several hours in a day and constantly in touch with matters of importance throughout the day. It's not like the President gets to lounge on a beach and get high. That's true for pretty much any CIC in the modern times.

Come on, put some perspective to this and Mods, please lock this thread already!!!
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And you cynics are pretty much forgetting that a 'vacation' for CIC is only a vacation in name. I'm sure like every other Prez, he's tied up in the thick of matters for several hours in a day and constantly in touch with matters of importance throughout the day. It's not like the President gets to lounge on a beach and get high. That's true for pretty much any CIC in the modern times.

Come on, put some perspective to this and Mods, please lock this thread already!!!
relax nobody is saying politicians can't have vacations
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I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories but I'm with Lair on this one. It's not related to the topic, but Bush and Co. were definitely not shooting straight on the WMD story. It was that or a massive intelligence failure. Like historic, epic massive. I don't believe that was the case, and take that in context of the huge oil money and oil lobbying from the Great State of Texas..

Saddam bragged on several occasions that he had WMD's. He did it to intimidate Iran because he knew he could not win against them in a conventional war. It was a bluff that went the wrong way.

Furthermore, every time the UN inspection team visited another site, our dear friends from France would call the Iraqis on their cell phones and tell them we are headed to x location. They were tipped off in advance when it was suppose to be a surprise inspection. The phone calls were intercepted by the NSA when they were eavesdropping on the Iraqis. If there was nothing to hide, why were the French tipping them off ?

The next question would be WHY were the French doing this, but I guess you would have to ask the French.

But their behavior certainly created suspicion.
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And you cynics are pretty much forgetting that a 'vacation' for CIC is only a vacation in name. I'm sure like every other Prez, he's tied up in the thick of matters for several hours in a day and constantly in touch with matters of importance throughout the day. It's not like the President gets to lounge on a beach and get high. That's true for pretty much any CIC in the modern times.

Come on, put some perspective to this and Mods, please lock this thread already!!!
That is because the POTUS is insecure about his body image and won't allow pictures to be taken of him without a shirt.
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Saddam bragged on several occasions that he had WMD's. He did it to intimidate Iran because he knew he could not win against them in a conventional war. It was a bluff that went the wrong way.

Furthermore, every time the UN inspection team visited another site, our dear friends from France would call the Iraqis on their cell phones and tell them we are headed to x location. They were tipped off in advance when it was suppose to be a surprise inspection. The phone calls were intercepted by the NSA when they were eavesdropping on the Iraqis. If there was nothing to hide, why were the French tipping them off ?

The next question would be WHY were the French doing this, but I guess you would have to ask the French.

But their behavior certainly created suspicion.
Presumably, but isn't that the role of a responsible leader of the free world.. to filter out facts from fiction..?

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