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Old 01-03-2013, 08:27 PM   #21
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Is the mini 14 included in that list? I'm not familar with variant names of it.

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Old 01-03-2013, 08:32 PM   #22
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Is the mini 14 included in that list? I'm not familar with variant names of it.

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yes , it would be easier to name the guns that are legal in this bill. Anything with a detachabe mag would be banned, pistols included . Also my favorite, any "colt ar-15" or similar.

fvcking asshats

Already emailed the state senator and house rep, from my district, both pro gun republicans to get there oppostion vocal
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:40 PM   #23
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I wonder why they banned .50 BMG but not 14.5mm x 114mm rounds.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:45 PM   #24
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yes , it would be easier to name the guns that are legal in this bill. Anything with a detachabe mag would be banned, pistols included . Also my favorite, any "colt ar-15" or similar.

fvcking asshats

Already emailed the state senator and house rep, from my district, both pro gun republicans to get there oppostion vocal

I need to re-read the bill - I'm questioning if my Browning A-Bolt shotgun is legal, as it has a detachable clip ( 2 rounds in the clip, one in the chamber)
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This is incredible... They are going after everything!!!

Section 5-5. The Criminal Code of 2012 is amended by adding
2 Sections 24-1.9 and 24-4.1 as follows:

3 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.9 new)
4 Sec. 24-1.9. Possession, delivery, sale, and purchase of
5 semi-automatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments,
6 .50 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber cartridges.
7 (a) Definitions. In this Section:
8 (1) "Semi-automatic assault weapon" means:
9 (A) any of the firearms or types, replicas, or
10 duplicates in any caliber of the firearms, known as:
11 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies
12 Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
13 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries
14 UZI and Galil;
15 (iii) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70);
16 (iv) Colt AR-15;
17 (v) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and
18 FNC;
19 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
20 (vii) Steyr AUG;
21 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22;
22 and
23 (ix) any shotgun which contains its ammunition
24 in a revolving cylinder, such as (but not limited




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1 to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
2 (B) a semi-automatic rifle or pump-action rifle
3 that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and
4 has any of the following:
5 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
6 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
7 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or
8 partially or completely encircles the barrel, and
9 that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with
10 the non-trigger hand without being burned;
11 (C) a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to
12 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
13 following:
14 (i) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole
15 stock;
16 (ii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially
17 or completely encircles the barrel, and that
18 permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the
19 non-trigger hand without being burned;
20 (iii) an ammunition magazine that attaches to
21 the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
22 (iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more
23 when the pistol is unloaded; or
24 (v) a semi-automatic version of an automatic
25 firearm;
26 (C-1) a semi-automatic rifle or pistol with a fixed




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1 magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10
2 rounds of ammunition;
3 (C-2) a semi-automatic rifle or a pistol with the
4 capacity to accept a detachable magazine, a muzzle
5 brake, or muzzle compensator;
6 (D) a semi-automatic shotgun that has any of the
7 following:
8 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
9 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
10 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5
11 rounds; or
12 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable
13 magazine.
14 "Semi-automatic assault weapon" does not
15 include:
16 (A) any firearm that:
17 (i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever,
18 or slide action;
19 (ii) is an unserviceable firearm or has been
20 made permanently inoperable, as defined by 27
21 C.F.R. 478.11;
22 (iii) is an antique firearm; or
23 (iv) is a rifle with a fixed tubular magazine
24 located under the barrel that is only capable of
25 holding rounds of ammunition placed end to end;
26 (B) any air rifle as defined in Section 24.8-0.1 of




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also I'm going to point out that this is an amendment to a sexual assualt bill introduced years ago and still going through the legislative bullshit.

What kind of piece of shit human being attaches their anti gun bs to a sexual assualt bill... Democrat Antonio Munez what a class act
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also I'm going to point out that this is an amendment to a sexual assualt bill introduced years ago and still going through the legislative bullshit.

What kind of piece of shit human being attaches their anti gun bs to a sexual assualt bill... Democrat Antonio Munez what a class act
Let me highlight the problem for you...
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:43 PM   #28
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You guys are kidding yourselves that this type of crap wont pass in the USSC. The USSC stated that firearms are for personal use. Great. However, just like the healthcare law, they can rule that while firearms are legal to own for individuals, states can regulate them (they can leave single bolt action rifles and 6 shot revolvers to meet the Heller decision) and outlaw the rest. I wouldn't sleep on this being passed. There is a very real chance that sooner or later, one of the swing justices will rule "states have a right to regulate to any degree" so long as it doesn't conflict with Heller and Macdonald, which my example illustrates. Believe me, no one hopes I'm wrong more than me.
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