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Old 01-03-2013, 02:48 PM   #1
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Meth Kit : AA vs. Generic AEM Setup

For those with chargers, can you comment on the AA Meth kit and whether it's worth the several-hundred dollar premium price over the AEM kit?

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I noticed the AA kit had a larger reservoir but I imagine that can be sourced. Are there some extra goodies that you get with the AA product?
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I cant speak for AA's kit other than I'm sure its completely plug & play with their system with whatever fail safes they provide. As for AEM the off the shelf kits I've seen usually require additional pieces and labor to function properly with X setup but this is based purely on the installers I've seen use them. I would probably say when its all said and done both kits probably end up the same cost wise for materials especially when you have to source X item's needed for the off the shelf kit. Installation time will always be more for a custom setup as opposed to a plug & play kit.

Performance wise will come down to installation and tune/more psi,etc. Fail safe is a highly debated topic as many view things differently however in my opinion the only real fail safe that can be the difference between a blown engine or not is NOT having a more aggressive tune/more psi on meth and just using it for the cooling benefits, again this is just my opinion.
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AA uses a AEM Controller...You just paying for the Name and the Design of the box....

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AA uses a AEM Controller...You just paying for the Name and the Design of the box....
What this guy said. I've ran Snow Performance and AEM pumps in place of the AA one and it is plug and play. You're paying for the name and design of the AA meth kit.
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Kris did you have any preference between snow and AEM? Also, is there ANYTHING on the AA kit that makes it easier for install? I heard that if you add meth to an AA kit after the install, you don't need to alter the tune.. so I suppose you don't have to retune post a meth install.. is that correct?
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failsafes? neither come with a flow meter, so neither will protect your engine if the pump fails or nozzles are clogged. If you are tuning for more power on meth, I wouldnt use either of those unless the AEM failsafe device with flow meter was added


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I cant speak for AA's kit other than I'm sure its completely plug & play with their system with whatever fail safes they provide. As for AEM the off the shelf kits I've seen usually require additional pieces and labor to function properly with X setup but this is based purely on the installers I've seen use them. I would probably say when its all said and done both kits probably end up the same cost wise for materials especially when you have to source X item's needed for the off the shelf kit. Installation time will always be more for a custom setup as opposed to a plug & play kit.

Performance wise will come down to installation and tune/more psi,etc. Fail safe is a highly debated topic as many view things differently however in my opinion the only real fail safe that can be the difference between a blown engine or not is NOT having a more aggressive tune/more psi on meth and just using it for the cooling benefits, again this is just my opinion.
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We would recommend the Aquamist setup; it is worlds better than the AEM as far as function and quality of the components, as well as the failsafes. The controller, flow meter, and failsafes are all built into one device that is also a gauge and uses an injector style nozzle which gives you much more precise control over the injection process, not to mention it drives meth injection as a function of injector duty, boost, and RPM instead of just boost. We can't comment on the AA meth injection setup, looks like a nice bottle.
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For those with chargers, can you comment on the AA Meth kit and whether it's worth the several-hundred dollar premium price over the AEM kit?

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I noticed the AA kit had a larger reservoir but I imagine that can be sourced. Are there some extra goodies that you get with the AA product?
You can use either system for your vehicle. The System we have available is designed specific for your vehicle and is not a Generic Setup which makes it easier to install provides a cleaner look and peace of mind with warranty. They are other systems in the market that make Meth Kits that cost more $$$ and some that are on the cheaper end that will end up costing more in the long run. At the end of the day they all more or less provide the same purpose and similar Horsepower gains.
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AEM will work fine but if you want a car specific setup, the AA system is for you.
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Kris did you have any preference between snow and AEM? Also, is there ANYTHING on the AA kit that makes it easier for install? I heard that if you add meth to an AA kit after the install, you don't need to alter the tune.. so I suppose you don't have to retune post a meth install.. is that correct?
AA's kit will be a plug and play and will come with all the components. I would get a re-tune after installing the meth because that is where most of the power is made.

The only reason I tried different pumps was because my original AA one died due to the fact (at that time), the AA pumps could not run Methanol because of its corosive properties. It was only meant for Alcohol/Distilled Water.

I tried the Snow performance pump, but that one died for some reason. Probably because I got a faulty unit.

So then I tried the AEM pump since it made sense due to the fact that all the rest of the components are virtually AEM parts. No complaints so far.

If I get a chance to re-do it all, I will go Aquamist.

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All of those pumps are the exact same rebranded Shur-flo units. Pump failure between "brands" was just "coincidental. You can buy the rebuild diaphrams for 6$. Hope you didnt just throw out those pumps.
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AA's kit will be a plug and play and will come with all the components. I would get a re-tune after installing the meth because that is where most of the power is made.

The only reason I tried different pumps was because my original AA one died due to the fact (at that time), the AA pumps could not run Methanol because of its corosive properties. It was only meant for Alcohol/Distilled Water.

I tried the Snow performance pump, but that one died for some reason. Probably because I got a faulty unit.

So then I tried the AEM pump since it made sense due to the fact that all the rest of the components are virtually AEM parts. No complaints so far.

If I get a chance to re-do it all, I will go Aquamist.

Hope that helps.
Any suggestion on where to order the auqamist setup? I've been looking all over and there are too many options to even know where to start.
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Any suggestion on where to order the auqamist setup? I've been looking all over and there are too many options to even know where to start.
Add Aquamist on Facebook and message them or you can contact the owner, Alex Au, and he will direct you. He is usually good at responding via e-mail. I PM'ed you his e-mail address.

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We use them both and can really help with your decision. When you're ready to purchase we can get you set up also.
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Well AEM finally got back to me about sponsorship pricing and can offer their 1 gallon kit for under 200 bucks... hard to pass that up when the AA kit is almost a grand.

I'll keep you all posted. As for failsafes, I am not going to deal with it as this is only for cooling.
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I prefer Omega... Does your kit come with diamonds or is it made of platinum?
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Well AEM finally got back to me about sponsorship pricing and can offer their 1 gallon kit for under 200 bucks... hard to pass that up when the AA kit is almost a grand.

I'll keep you all posted. As for failsafes, I am not going to deal with it as this is only for cooling.
Contact Viral or Robert at AA - i'm sure they can work something out for you.
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I prefer Omega as well No diamonds, but it is designed for your specific car resulting in one of the cleanest meth kit installations around.
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