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Old 01-08-2013, 09:15 AM   #21
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:19 AM   #22
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What? Morgan allowed it because the more Jones kept ranting the more insane he looked. And it worked! Jones went on rants about medicine, 9-11, among other unrelated things. Paranoid, delusional, and exposed outside of his group followers. Not surprised you think he got over on the Brit. I suppose we will see you linking more stories from infowars in political science forum.
No, you just hate Jones so much you refuse to acknowledge his points. I don't like Jones. I don't listen to his show nor do I think he is good for gun owners. However, I can at least see his very well thought out, but poorly delivered points. If you read the interview on a transcript rather than watch the rant, it is clear that his points are well made. England did have a 60%+ rise in violent crime. Morgans constant "35 gun murders in England" was irrelevant. Partly because of the lack of population adjustment, and partly because he kept ignoring the fact that US gun sales have been at an all time high, and gun violence low(er). Our gun violence numbers are irrelevant when looked at a single year at a time. How many gangs does england have? How many violent bordering countries does England have? And about the drugs...it was another excellent point. People are being medicated at an astounding rate. A vast majority of Americans are now on some kind of drug. Many are on antidepressants. People pop them like skittles. What do all the shooters have in common? People are being medicated into a damn near coma, and he keeps blaming guns. If you refuse to acknowledge Jones' facts, there is no point in a discussion. I quite clearly said his DELIVERY was poor, erratic, and does the gun owners harm, as he sounds like a loon, but his POINTS were accurate.
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He was trending on twitter last night. Unfortunately, regardless of his correct points, he did us no favors...

Even better: Sounds like he had a run in with the TSA on his flight to this show...
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No, you just hate Jones so much you refuse to acknowledge his points. I don't like Jones. I don't listen to his show nor do I think he is good for gun owners. However, I can at least see his very well thought out, but poorly delivered points. If you read the interview on a transcript rather than watch the rant, it is clear that his points are well made. England did have a 60%+ rise in violent crime. Morgans constant "35 gun murders in England" was irrelevant. Partly because of the lack of population adjustment, and partly because he kept ignoring the fact that US gun sales have been at an all time high, and gun violence low(er). Our gun violence numbers are irrelevant when looked at a single year at a time. How many gangs does england have? How many violent bordering countries does England have? And about the drugs...it was another excellent point. People are being medicated at an astounding rate. A vast majority of Americans are now on some kind of drug. Many are on antidepressants. People pop them like skittles. What do all the shooters have in common? People are being medicated into a damn near coma, and he keeps blaming guns. If you refuse to acknowledge Jones' facts, there is no point in a discussion. I quite clearly said his DELIVERY was poor, erratic, and does the gun owners harm, as he sounds like a loon, but his POINTS were accurate.
You are right. There is no point of discussion here. Arguing against one nut about another nut's ramblings.
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He was trending on twitter last night. Unfortunately, regardless of his correct points, he did us no favors...

Even better: Sounds like he had a run in with the TSA on his flight to this show...
Exactly what I said. That episode did gun owners no favors at all.
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BTW, props to him for dominating his British ass.
Jones looked like a baboon. Piers won this without even making a single point.
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Jones looked like a baboon. Piers won this without even making a single point.
Not as far as TV goes. It is Morgan's show, not Jones'. Morgan was barely able to get a word in. Jones basically turned it into his own show (ranting and raving) but still. When it comes to TV, Morgan got owned. I've seen similar event on Oreilly, and they went VERY differently.
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Not as far as TV goes. It is Morgan's show, not Jones'. Morgan was barely able to get a word in. Jones basically turned it into his own show (ranting and raving) but still. When it comes to TV, Morgan got owned. I've seen similar event on Oreilly, and they went VERY differently.
At first I was surprised that they let someone on the show like Alex Jones, but then I realized and is now being talked about (as some of you may have heard) that they had Jones on the show to bastardize those in favor of the 2nd amendment. Making us look deranged and psychotic with a poster boy like Alex Jones only helps their argument, so in that respect, yes Chase, Morgan won without saying a word. Jones did everything the CNN execs expected him to do. Jones did not do so badly himself however...Jones got all his points across using his time wisely to just spill out whatever information he could. Like someone in here had said earlier - if you were to read his monologue on paper, all his points checks out. Its really just a matter of how he delivered it. THAT being said, if Jones was calm, cool and collected while talking to Piers and engaged in a civilized debate, then something would truly be wrong lol. Alex Jones, as crazy as he may come off, is one of the last true people speaking up and voicing facts that aren't talked about in mainstream media. If the interview went any other way than it had, I would've lost hope lol.
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At first I was surprised that they let someone on the show like Alex Jones, but then I realized and is now being talked about (as some of you may have heard) that they had Jones on the show to bastardize those in favor of the 2nd amendment. Making us look deranged and psychotic with a poster boy like Alex Jones only helps their argument, so in that respect, yes Chase, Morgan won without saying a word. Jones did everything the CNN execs expected him to do. Jones did not do so badly himself however...Jones got all his points across using his time wisely to just spill out whatever information he could. Like someone in here had said earlier - if you were to read his monologue on paper, all his points checks out. Its really just a matter of how he delivered it. THAT being said, if Jones was calm, cool and collected while talking to Piers and engaged in a civilized debate, then something would truly be wrong lol. Alex Jones, as crazy as he may come off, is one of the last true people speaking up and voicing facts that aren't talked about in mainstream media. If the interview went any other way than it had, I would've lost hope lol.
Remember Jones was only on the show because he started a petition to deport Piers.
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Piers Morgan interviewing former Marine Joshua Boston. Does a great job of articulating what Alex Jones couldn't. Not happy with how they portray every semi auto gun as "Assult Rifle" but it's a good start. Way, Way, Way better than the Alex Jones interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aSt789ADZtg_nr_
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Piers Morgan interviewing former Marine Joshua Boston. Does a great job of articulating what Alex Jones couldn't. Not happy with how they portray every semi auto gun as "Assult Rifle" but it's a good start. Way, Way, Way better than the Alex Jones interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aSt789ADZtg_nr_
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