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Old 01-07-2013, 09:17 PM   #21
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From what you say your mech thinks a vanos filter like this can be healthy for your engine. This is an E46 M3 vanos filter...

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o...gno/chris6.jpg

The vanos filter you can change yourself, takes literally a few minutes. Do the O-rings as well, I linked to the kit above

Thread here about valve adjustment, once again you decide after reading that. When were the valves last checked?

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...php?p=12710667

So is your mech saying never to change the tranny/SMG oil???

Some people are happy with their mechs, maybe I'm way too cautious, but the guy who works on my car (also a member of our local BM club and good bloke) is a certified BMW Master Tech at a BMW dealer. I dont let anyone else touch it. Sure, the labour rates are high, but I make up for it by buying all parts beforehand from OS...
Remember, you have a performance vehicle, that for a naturally aspirated engine had one of the highest HP output for a production car ever. Treat it as such...
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:29 PM   #22
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Ok sweet.

I'll do the vanos filter myself.

What tranny fluid is the best for the E46 M3 and what's the best diff fluid for no noise etc

What does BMW use and would that be the way to go?

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Old 01-07-2013, 09:46 PM   #23
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This kit at ECS includes O-rings as well, $21. I change it out every service, I have vanos paranoia Already had my vanos intake bolts swapped over to the newer style ones.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-...ter/ES1892454/
Me too man. Swapped them out and turns out mine where fine anyway but now its one less thing for me to worry about.

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Ok sweet.

I'll do the vanos filter myself.

What tranny fluid is the best for the E46 M3 and what's the best diff fluid for no noise etc

What does BMW use and would that be the way to go?
Tranny: Can't get oem now but Pentosin MTF2 is the closest to oem you can get. Im currently using Amsoil MTF myself.
Diff: Castrol SAF-XJ +FM is the best for diff.

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Old 01-07-2013, 10:52 PM   #24
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I was just told today that the tranny oil doesnt need changing as it's long life oil... Hmmm, the mechanic i spoke to at my mates workshop said not to change the SMG oil.

He also told me not to change the Vanos filter as that's something that is more for E36's. And he said the Valves don't need adjustment.

Can someone help?
He's right insofar as you don't HAVE TO change it, you don't have to do interim services either, but it helps maintain your asset as best as possible. So I would be thanking him for his input, but insisting he do what he's told.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:00 PM   #25
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He's right insofar as you don't HAVE TO change it, you don't have to do interim services either, but it helps maintain your asset as best as possible. So I would be thanking him for his input, but insisting he do what he's told.
I'd be taking it to someone else who can appreciate that you want extra maintenance performed. I reckon they'd be much more likely to take care of it.

As for vanos filters that's a bit worrying that he doesn't think they need doing based on what I've read.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:49 PM   #26
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What are the symptoms of an M3 that needs a valve adjustment?
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:18 AM   #27
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You hear a loud ticking sound when you hold a constant amount of revs.

In my previous M, when i was cruising at 60-70kmh with the window down, i could just hear this loud ticking. That was at about 140,000km or so.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:19 AM   #28
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Yeah i've got that. Not loud though.

With the window down cruising along in 4th, 5th etc. I can hear ticking as i'm driving.

What parts do i need to buy for a valve adjustment? Also what's the usual rate to have it done?

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Old 01-08-2013, 12:21 AM   #29
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Yours should be within tolerance because it hasn't done that many kays, but its always good to have it checked.

Also, its a relatively large job, i had to leave my car with my mechanic for two days. The result was no ticking at constant revs, but no change in performance - the engine was just heaps quieter.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:23 AM   #30
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What did they slog you for it?

And what happens if i don't get it done?
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:46 AM   #31
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Parts are fsck all, its the labour component that makes it an expensive exercise. Lots of poontangers in the US do it themselves... But it just seems like something you shouldn't attempt unless you know you can finish it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:47 AM   #32
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I think i paid around $1K from memory - maybe a little less
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:52 AM   #33
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Wow $1k!

What parts are needed tho so i can source them.

What happens if i don't do the adjustment?
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:03 AM   #34
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Concening parts, you need a shim kit and anything else i have no idea about. Check M3F for valve adjustment threads, there is heaps of info on the subject.

If you don't do it? I am unsure what the side effects are apart from the ticking noise. Given that your car only has 90,000km you have a couple of years before you'd need to do anything imo.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:19 PM   #35
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How can you tell if a fuel filter is due for changing though?
Change it every 50,000 kms. you'll be glad you did.
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Change it every 50,000 kms. you'll be glad you did.
How so? I noticed no differences when I changed mine.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:22 PM   #37
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@Kook, hate to go off topic, but your M3 is absolutely gorgeous.. Le Mans Blue *drool* - do you have any photos or have you made a thread? I'm being lazy.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:03 PM   #38
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I noticed a big difference when I last changed mine.

Less noise from the fuel pump, smoother idle, better acceleration.

The old filter was filthy and likely clogged on the inside.



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Old 01-08-2013, 07:37 PM   #39
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@Kook, hate to go off topic, but your M3 is absolutely gorgeous.. Le Mans Blue *drool* - do you have any photos or have you made a thread? I'm being lazy.
Thanks, its a great shade of blue! I stuck some pics over in the showroom thread...

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Old 01-08-2013, 08:25 PM   #40
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I noticed a big difference when I last changed mine.

Less noise from the fuel pump, smoother idle, better acceleration.

The old filter was filthy and likely clogged on the inside.



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Which filter are you talking about?

Ok i think since it's only done 90 000k's and it's got Inspection II coming up at 100 000k's i'm only going to do this:

Engine Oil & Filter
Fuel Filter
Coolant Flush (only because it's a little bit dirty)
Check other fluid levels, brake/power steering etc

I'll order in a Vanos Filter and other bits from Turner Motorsports for the Inspection II once it hits 100 000k's. That way once the next service comes along i'll do a valve adjustment and stuff too.

How does that sound?

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