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Old 01-08-2013, 02:19 PM   #121
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I can safely say that if I would have had a bike when I was 18-23 yrs old I would probably be either dead or have sustained significant bodily injury. The combination of youth, speed, and more importantly, other drivers would have did me in.

My parents rule was that I couldn't have one as long as I either lived at home or were on their dime. When I moved out, I bought a house and didn't have the money for a bike, so I missed that chapter in my life. Young kids are going to push a bike to the limit, even the responsible ones.

You are the dad, so if you're supporting him financially, he lives by your rules or faces the consequences. If he's on his own, he can make his on choices and all you can do is comment from afar.

I'd offer to buy him a car instead of him buying a bike. Hopefully that would be an exciting alternative for him.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:32 PM   #122
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If he really wants one, buy him a harley not a sport bike
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:42 PM   #123
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Buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

Buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

Buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

Buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

Buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.
For some reason, I'm thinking that I should buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

Thank you DDD...it's a really good idea...except I'm an old man with a bad back...I won't be tracking a bike. I've seen MotoGP...I don't think so!

Also, he has a car...I offered to drive out with him and fly back but he says it's impossible to have a car in Berkeley.

I'm going to get him to read this thread...so it's interesting to him, would you guys who sided with him (albeit, also with safety) please remove anything supporting his side and just interest a picture of a hot girl with charcoal gray Subaru Impreza? If you have daughters in the bay area and want them to meet a great young man, PM me! If you have a daughter and a garage, even better!

To be continued. Thanks again. How can people not love this place? IDK

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:00 PM   #124
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The bike I rode was actually my dad's. He didn't seem to have a issue with it, my mom did but knew she really couldn't do anything about it. I was 19/20, Riding a 06 vstar classic. It is dangerous on the road, you definitely have to be a aware and defensive rider. There were plenty times where people would come in my lane. One thing that helped curb that issue was a stupid loud exhaust. People heard it so they looked for me. I fell once going about 30mph, no helmet and no jacket on. Have a nice scar on my arm, but I am fine.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:17 PM   #125
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Take him to an ER that's dealing with a bike related incident -- see if he still wants a motorcycle a that point. Its a phase imo.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:30 PM   #126
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If I had a bike at 18, I probably wouldn't be alive right now. At the age of 25, I can safely say it was a good decision not to get into one at that time... Now I have my M license but still cannot afford both a bike and a car. Moreover, here in Canada (Ontario, specifically) insurance rates for the first 12 months as a new rider under the age of 25 are ASTONISHING. I was quoted almost $3500/yr (of which only 4-5 months are rideable) for any 250cc bike. Let's not even discuss 600cc sportbikes... That was a massive deterrent.

Try to get him to see it like this: save up/get a fun car instead and down the road get a bike once he has some experience as a driver. The bike should be used as a toy, not as a means of transportation. That might get him to change his mind: this way he gets to eventually own a bike and use it *leisurely* (thereby minimizing his risks) as well as enjoy motoring with a decent car. Not a smart car. Lol.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:36 PM   #127
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Take him to an ER that's dealing with a bike related incident -- see if he still wants a motorcycle a that point. Its a phase imo.
That sounds practical. There are at least 20 motorcycle related incidents per ER across America. And most hospital staff will have no problem with you walking in and asking "Hey... where all the crash victims at, I want to go look at them".
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:47 PM   #128
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For some reason, I'm thinking that I should buy two track bikes one for you and one for him. Tell him he can only do track days on the bike. No riding on the street what so ever? Would be good fun for you two.

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Old 01-08-2013, 04:11 PM   #129
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Oops...the risk of copying and pasting! Maybe after you've been to a few of my shows we can talk about it!

Anyway, my latest idea is to publish something on the web about how riding a bike reduces a woman's satisfaction with her man later...and I'll link to it. He'll believe it because it's on the Internet.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:25 PM   #130
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Tell him the truth is that it is not him that will make a mistake on the bike - it is all the asshole car drivers that don't see you or check their blind spot and will run you over.

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Old 01-08-2013, 05:34 PM   #131
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Probably doesn't help much but the reason I didn't get one is because of wrecks I have seen and wrecks I have been involved in. I've always thought, you know they didn't see my 740iL and totaled it, how would I have looked on a crotch rocket? I still want one about every Spring, but I think through it and talk myself out of it. There are just too many careless drivers out there for me.

The first time I almost bought a bike I was 16 years old. Thank God I didn't, no way I would still be here today. I loooooove speed.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:39 PM   #132
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My father lost his leg from his knee down at the young age of 23 because he was hit by a drunk driver while riding a motorcycle. He told me he didnt touch the ground for over a year after the accident because of so many operations/surgerys and being bed ridden. I definitely want a bike but i will never get one because its too dangerous.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #133
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Did you ask him exactly why he wants a bike? Is it for cool factor? Commuting? Just because? It is nice to have nimble transportation in the Bay Area to get to places that the buses don't go.

I had a 550 Nighthawk when I was 25 or so in San Francisco. Never did anything too crazy with it (OK, Gough Street), but then again I was a fuddy-duddy even back then.

I say go with the purse-strings to keep him in line. I'm sure BIL won't be able to foot the bill for Berkeley.

In the event that he goes through with it, anyone have any suggestions as to a good starter bike? That Nighthawk was great - not too powerful, shaft drive, nice lines. If I were to move back to the Bay Area, I personally would get a 650KLR. It's tall for seeing traffic and the single cylinder is tourquey enough for around town, but it's not a speed demon.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #134
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Just tell him that there are a bunch of asian people at/near/around Berkeley. Maybe he'll think again?
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #135
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Seriously, though, now I find out that my wife said to him "well if you have your heart set on it, be safe, and is also going to help him with $$$." Just another good reason for divorce! Arghhhh!

All I can tell him is that I love him, that he's risking my life and those of others who care about him too, and that yes, I trust his ability to drive it, but not those around him for it to be safe...also, I've been sneaking his room at night and while he's sleeping, I whisper things like "asian" and in an asian accent, "oh, where'd motorcycle come from," and then, just when he's about to stir awake, I turn on two flashlights on either side of him and yell, "asians!"

Note: Asian fanatics, stop PMing me...I was only joking...even though an asian woman in an asian minivan rear-ended me! Do you know that she paid me more than I asked for my bumper because I fixed her minivan for her...I'm so nice!
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:43 PM   #136
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Tell him to google motorcycle accidents and look at the images. Pretty graphic.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:51 PM   #137
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Having a motorcycle has made me a better driver. Having to be on the defensive all the time on a motorcycle bled over into my car driving :-)

Never even had a close call on the bike...but definitely scared the **** out off myself a few times, haha
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:20 PM   #139
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Alright so I only really read your first post and not through the entire thread but I'm tired....

Anyhow, you need to let him do what he wants. Why try to stop him if that's what he wants. You will have better luck getting him educated on how to ride. He will be safer and enjoy it more that way. People always go oh why do you ride a motorcycle it's so dangerous....a few people even annoyed me to the extend I responded why do you leave your house? You can get killed or die at any moment in life. I'm not trying to sound condescending even though I think it seems that way. But some of the best experiences I've had with my father and friends have been on a motorcycle. I wouldn't trade that for anything. Being smart and riding responsibly makes riding a million times safer. But I could go on for days about it.

In a nut shell I say your son is at the age that support is better then straight out trying to discourage him.

In everything, if you always think about the negative you can find something horrible. Why drive a car you could get hit head on an die. Why leave your house? Someone could run you over. Very silly analogy but the point is understood.

It would seem i don't share the same view as most but dunno....I have been on two wheels since I was about 7 so maybe I'm just that crazy. But my dad knew from when I was little it was something I loved and he supported me with everything he could. I had an M on my license not long after I got it. Support and proper guidance are the best I hope you give him.

Should you decide you really still don't want him riding....have him get a few insurance quotes on anything near the word sport if those are the kinda of bikes he likes. He will crap when he sees the insurance cost. If he likes cruisers they can still be expensive if they are big engine.

I still think if you have any thought he might do it with or without your approval make sure he gets some training.
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Probably doesn't help much but the reason I didn't get one is because of wrecks I have seen and wrecks I have been involved in. I've always thought, you know they didn't see my 740iL and totaled it, how would I have looked on a crotch rocket? I still want one about every Spring, but I think through it and talk myself out of it. There are just too many careless drivers out there for me.

The first time I almost bought a bike I was 16 years old. Thank God I didn't, no way I would still be here today. I loooooove speed.
Read the last sentence....no offense intended but that's what causes accidents irresponsibility not riding a motorcycle.
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