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Suspension & Braking
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Request For Comments on Suspension Overhaul
I'm planning a complete suspension overhaul once the weather turns in the spring. My summer tires are completely worn so the plan is to overhaul the suspension prior to swapping the winter. I believe the suspension is original (2001/10) except for the Meyle HD control arms and bushings, which I replaced <20K km ago. Everything else is suspect and subject to replacement.
This is an (enthusiastic) daily driver and not a track car, so I'm only looking to refresh the suspension with something equivalent or slightly better than Sport Suspension II. I'm not interested in lowering it as I have enough scuffs on the bottom of the front bumper, and I think the car looks fine as is. I'm thinking that it's better to do this as one large project and get everything done in one go rather than do this piecemeal and break it up into a set of smaller projects. That said I do view it as a set of smaller projects that I will complete back-to-back-to-back. Here's my plan for tackling the project. 1. repair curb scuffs on summer wheels 2. front sway bar bushings 3. front sway bar end links 4. front structs (and the various strut components) 5. strut bar (if budget allows) 6. front outer tie rods 7. steering coupler 8. replace power steering fluid 9. rear trailing arm bushings (with spacers) 10. rear sway bar bushings 11. rear sway bar end links 12. rear shocks (and various mounting components) 13. replace differential fluid 14. replace summer tires 15. alignment at shop Here's some initial questions I have: - am I missing anything that should be addressed at the same time? - am I including anything above that really is not required (is this overkill)? - any thoughts/comments/recommendations on the order of the steps above? - my budget for the project is <$3000. Is this realistic? - I’d like to complete this within a long weekend (except for alignment) is three days realistic considering this is my first time for each step. - how long can I reasonably wait for an alignment after step 13? I’m thinking of doing the work one weekend and getting the alignment then next, but I would need to drive the car for a week before getting the alignment - another possibility is splitting this over three weekends. Weekend 1 - rear suspension Weekend 2 - front suspension and steering Weekend 3 - new tires and alignment All comments welcome. |
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Suspension Parts
I'm looking for any recommendations on parts selection. Here's what I have planned for:
Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires - improved wet weather traction vs PS2 (good for Vancouver) - I like my current PS2 so something equivalent or better is what I want. Koni FSD Struts and Shocks - considered Bilstein Sport but I’m concerned the ride might be too harsh - considered Bilstein Touring but might be downgrade from existing - considered Koni Sport but it seems FSD on-the-fly adjustments is better Febi RTAB - I am concerned about pre-tensioning these without the correct tool - should I use poly to avoid this problem? Lemfoerder Sway Bar End Links - not sure any particular brand matters here. OEM Sway Bar Bushings - Some comments that Powerflex polyurethane squeak. That would drive me nuts. ECS Carbon Fiber Strut Bar Kit - undecided on this but it sounds like it will make a difference - if this is just bling, I’d rather not add this Eibach Anit-Roll-Kit - currently not in the plan. Price may force this out. - is this upgrade really worth the $400 price tag? - will this add any harshness to the ride? I like firm but not harsh. Springs - currently not in the plan. This seems to be an “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” part. - no plans on lowering the vehicle, I’m fine with it as is. - That said, the measured ride height with 225/45R17 winter tires is 582 mm front and rear which seems low in the front and high in the rear compared with the specs in Bentley manual of 589 mm front and 554 mm rear for sport suspension. |
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Special Tools for Suspension Overhaul
I’ve got a good set of tools but there are some special ones for this job.
Here’s what I have so far: Torque Wrench - recently calibrated so it’s good for 60-600 in lb and 50-500 ft lb. Air Impact Wrench - haven’t used it yet but seems like a good tool for this job Ball Joint Puller - previously used for replacing control arms Jack Stands - I don't have access to a lift so this will be done in my driveway on jackstands Here’s what I think I’ll need for the job: Coil Spring Compressor - I’d rather not purchase this one use tool so I might check if a local mechanic will help me swap the springs. - better yet would be borrowing this tool so I keep the time require for the swap to a minimum. Rear Trailing Arm Bushing Tool - again I’d rather not purchase a one use tool but not sure where to borrow/rent in Vancouver. Some people have just drilled/cut the old one out and then built a tool with threaded rod and pipe fittings. Trailing Arm Pre-load Tool - Yet another one off tool, I’m just planning on using a long metal straight edge Are there any other special tools needed. I don’t want to get part way through and then have to track down a hard to get specialty item. |
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Vendors for Suspension Overhaul
I live in Vancouver and AFAIK there is nowhere I can go and just purchase all the parts at reasonable prices. Parts are much cheaper in the US but shipping to Canada horrible. Free Trade was created for businesses and does nothing to help the average citizen. I can get parts shipped to the US side of the border and then drive across and bring back ~$350 without getting charged duty and taxes by the border guards.
Canadian Tire They carry Michelin Pilot Super Sport for $251/$296 (front/rear). Tire rake is cheaper but there is no road hazard warranty for Canada, with shipping, brokerage fees and duty the difference is less than $150. Tire Rack Koni FSD price is $765 + $58 shipping direct to Canada. ECS Tuning ECS Carbon Fiber Strut Bar Kit for $170 Pelican Parts They have been my go to vendor for good parts at reasonable prices. I’m planning on ordering most of the bits and pieces in one or two orders each less than the ~$350 border guard limit. Strut Parts for $218 31-30-6-779-487 Strut Bolt with washer 31-33-6-752-735-M69 Front Strut Mount, Left Or Right, Each 31-33-1-091-867-M269 Upper Front Spring Pad 31-33-1-096-664-M269 Lower Front Spring Pad 31-31-6-769-731-BOE Front Strut Mount Nut 51-71-703-6781 Upper Front Strut Reinforcing Plate 07-11-9-904-295-M58 Collar Nut, 8 mm (Locking) 07-11-9-900-402-M9 Rear Shock Mounting Bolt 33-53-1-138-109-M58 Foam Bump Stop for Rear Shocks 33-52-1-092-362-M810 Upper Rear Shock Mount 33-52-6-772-864-M30 Gasket, for Rear Upper Shock Mount 07-11-9-904-295-M58 Collar Nut, 8 mm (Locking) 33-53-1-094-518-M9 Spring Pad, Rear Lower 33-53-1-136-385-M9 Spring Pad (5 mm) 31-10-6-772-199-M9 Hex Nut with Flange for axle support 33-32-6-770-786-M36 Mounting Bushing for Rear Trailing Arm 09-3031-010-M230 Reinforcement Spacer Set for RTAB Swaybar Parts for $135 33-30-6-760-587-BOE Hex Nut with Flange 07-11-9-904-295-M58 Locking Nut with Collar 07-12-9-904-002-BOE Self Locking Hex Nut 07-11-9-902-900-BOE Hex Bolt 07-11-9-912-501-BOE Bolt for rear swaybar link 31-35-6-780-847-M36 Front Sway Bar End Link 33-55-1-094-619-M69 Rear Sway Bar Link 31-35-1-097-179-BOE Front Swaybar Bushing 24mm 33-55-1-096-669-BOE Rear Swaybar Bushing 20mm Steering Parts for $289 32-30-6-752-957-M9 Steering coupler PEL-TRSKE46-1 Tie Rod Kit |
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Procedures for Suspension Overhaul
Here are the resources I’m relying on to guide me through this.
- Bentley Manual, great source for torque settings but I find the procedures more difficult to follow than DIY threads: My330i.com Sway Bar - http://www.my330i.com/mod13.php astonmartini03 Suspension Overhaul - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=914514 missamo80 Tie Rod Ends - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=779009 snowborder142190 Steering Coupler - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=838900 parad0x RTAB Meta DIY Thread - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=697862 fmzip Powerflex RTAB - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=678004 Dan330Ci~ Rear Shock Mounts - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=848575 Looking for a good thread on fixing wheel scuff marks...I know there is one somewhere. Thanks to everyone for all the excellent work!!! Note: not many of these are listed in the official DIY collection thread. |
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Local resources
For any Fanatics in the Vancouver, I have a few questions on where I might get things locally. I’m in North Vancouver so North Shore, Vancouver or Burnaby would be better than Richmond, Surrey or Langley.
- Where to get an alignment? - Where to get a better price for tires? - Where to borrow spring compressor? - Where to borrow RTAB tool? |
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Parts list legends!
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Thanks trive2, the weather is getting spring like here in Vancouver and I'm going to start ordering everything very soon.
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Can't wait to see this project, subscribed!
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By the looks of it, you sir know exactly what your doing
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WRT the RTAB, word has it that poly can cause binding of rear suspension. I replaced my stock RTABs for E46 M3 BMW parts and coupled with the Vorshlag limiters. Perhaps a minor point, but one worth considering.
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In on this!
pics of your bottom when you're all said n done eh |
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+1 on replacing all major suspension hardware like strut mounting bolts, torque-to-yield bolts, self-locking nuts, etc. I looked at your list and you forgot new dust boots.
If you want to apply correct torque on the strut mounting nuts when re-assembling the struts, you need to buy (or custom make) a tool like this:
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Last edited by LeMansteve; 02-21-2013 at 11:03 AM. |
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Thanks, I can't wait either. I'm really noticing it's not quite right these days.
Thanks for the support...this is my biggest project and I'm certainly nervous. Quote:
Definitely. I like taking pictures at each step...makes a good reference for putting it back together. Especially the first time. Quote:
I'll check into the tool...haven't seen that one mentioned anywhere but buying tools for projects is one of my favorite things. I like to think of them all as free if the total cost of the project and tools is still less than going to the dealer. |
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The only other approach I've seen that uses a torque wrench involves a deep spark plug socket, allen key through the middle and crow's foot attached to the hex-end of the socket (for the torque wrench). Of course you would have to do some re-calculation to make sure you are applying the correct torque. Some people prefer to put vise grips onto a socket and just "wrench til it's tight", others use an impact wrench Although - if you have a torque wrench that measures in both directions, you could use it with a really long 6mm allen socket to measure torque from the strut shaft instead of from the nut. Then you could use vise grips and a regular socket to tighten the nut and still get an accurate tightening torque. |
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I had a look in my tool chest and I think this setup will do the trick.
This is a 13/16" spark plug socket with an O2 sensor offset socket and a 6mm allen wrench. I'll have to check the effect on torque but IIRC it's not a problem. |
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Ok. The trick with using a crowsfoot and a torque wrench is to apply the torque at a 90 deg angle to the crowsfoot. This keeps the length of the torque wrench lever effectively the same as if the crowsfoot is not used. Like this...
Its only when you have the torque wrench directly head on the crowsfoot that you extend the length of the lever and alter the applied torque. Like this... |
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Nice post OP. Subcribed for later.
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