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Old 01-17-2013, 02:29 PM   #161
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But the point from doing dips is to workout chest and tris. There is no need to go all the way down to workout shoulders. Even without weights, my shoulders ache when I go all the way down.

Two moves that strain shoulders for most people. Behind the head pull-downs and going all the way down on dips. For the lucky few who don't have shoulder issues, they can do those moves. They'll benefit from it like you're saying.

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My point is that going past parallel is good prehab to prevent shoulder issues. If there is pain, lower the weight and work your way up using the full range of motion.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:36 PM   #162
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Not going past parallel is a no rep in my opinion
I only go slightly past parallel. Too far past parallel and I lose all tension in the muscles that I'm working, and it places more emphasis on the shoulders than I prefer.

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #163
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But the point from doing dips is to workout chest and tris. There is no need to go all the way down to workout shoulders. Even without weights, my shoulders ache when I go all the way down.

Two moves that strain shoulders for most people. Behind the head pull-downs and going all the way down on dips. For the lucky few who don't have shoulder issues, they can do those moves. They'll benefit from it like you're saying.
I disagree with the bolded part. I do a dip to work the entire range of motion. Maybe I am just lucky with my lack of injuries though.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #164
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I only go slightly past parallel. Too far past parallel and I lose all tension in the muscles that I'm working, and it places more emphasis on the shoulders than I prefer.
Fair enough. I don't really do any dedicated shoulder work, so I try to hit as much as I can from these kinds of movements.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:38 PM   #165
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when you guys are discussing weighted dips, are you talking tricep dips (as upright as possible with elbows in tight to body) or chest dips (tilted far forward, wider elbows).
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:40 PM   #166
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when you guys are discussing weighted dips, are you talking tricep dips (as upright as possible with elbows in tight to body) or chest dips (tilted far forward, wider elbows).
If I'm doing bar dips I usually lean over a bit but I am usually more upright when I do them on the rings (which is more often).
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:42 PM   #167
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Fair enough. I don't really do any dedicated shoulder work, so I try to hit as much as I can from these kinds of movements.
Ah okay! I do a lot of dedicated shoulder work (..military press, reverse cable/dumbbell flies, lateral raises, etc.).


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when you guys are discussing weighted dips, are you talking tricep dips (as upright as possible with elbows in tight to body) or chest dips (tilted far forward, wider elbows).
I do both! My elbows also never bow out.....I just adjust the tilt angle.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:44 PM   #168
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I do dips tilted forward. Your tris still get worked out but not as much as when you're pressing straight. Dips for upper body is like squats for lower body.

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when you guys are discussing weighted dips, are you talking tricep dips (as upright as possible with elbows in tight to body) or chest dips (tilted far forward, wider elbows).
That's why. I lift 4 days/w. One of them is mostly for shoulders.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:47 PM   #169
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hmm i only do bodyweight tricep dips where I am upright as possible, those kill. Done chest dips before but never really included them much in routines, I prefer a mix of flat/incline barbell & dumbbell presses with some flies and cable isolation work

might try some weighted chest dips to see where I am at, I do tricep dips after my chest workouts and I can only get about 8-10 with just bodyweight so no need for additional weight
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:39 PM   #170
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I do dips tilted forward. Your tris still get worked out but not as much as when you're pressing straight. Dips for upper body is like squats for lower body.



That's why. I lift 4 days/w. One of them is mostly for shoulders.
I've been getting this weird burning sensation in my chest from dips lately. It's strange and I don't know what it is.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #171
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Did weighted pull-ups with 45lbs AND fat grips for 5x5. My forearms are completely trashed. Can't even grip my bat today. Haha
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I haven't been able to do dips since my shoulder surgery. I'd only do ring ones if I got back into it though.
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Did weighted pull-ups with 45lbs AND fat grips for 5x5. My forearms are completely trashed. Can't even grip my bat today. Haha
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I haven't been able to do dips since my shoulder surgery. I'd only do ring ones if I got back into it though.
that's all I do.
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Whatz iz diz fatz gripz youz speakz ofz!??
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Whatz iz diz fatz gripz youz speakz ofz!??
it's a cover for the barbell that makes the grip fat lol
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:20 PM   #176
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Keep your elbows tucked in when you do dips. I see some guys doing them with their elbows wide open. I noticed when I let my elbows out chest muscles don't feel right. Might not be exactly what you're talking about.

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Old 01-17-2013, 07:09 PM   #177
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Did weighted pull-ups with 45lbs AND fat grips for 5x5. My forearms are completely trashed. Can't even grip my bat today. Haha
impressive, i admire your strength. chest dips ftw too
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By the end of the set with the fat gripz you literally are hanging by your fingers squeezing to hold on. Absolutely terrible the next day
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:36 PM   #179
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By the end of the set with the fat gripz you literally are hanging by your fingers squeezing to hold on. Absolutely terrible the next day
My hands are small, so everything feels like a fat grip to me.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:49 PM   #180
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