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Old 01-18-2013, 01:37 PM   #1
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The National Rifle Association sparked controversy in the weeks following Wayne LaPierre's call to place armed guards in every school. LaPierre called such a move "the one thing that would keep people safe," but one that may have backfired for a charter school that took his advice to heart.

While President Barack Obama and gun control supporters have expressed skepticism about staffing schools with armed guards, Chatfield School in Lapeer, Mich. -- like LaPierre -- felt that its students and staff would be safer with such security measures.

So school officials announced last week that they had hired retired county sheriff Clark Arnold to serve as Chatfield's armed security officer.

"It's a tremendous asset to the safety of the students," Chatfield School Director Matt Young told WNEM. "Providing a safe environment and an atmosphere where parents are comfortable, students are comfortable, and feel safe so that they can focus on learning."

But just days later, school officials revealed to The Flint Journal that Arnold had "made a breach in security protocol" by leaving his unloaded gun in a school restroom "for a few moments."

Young declined to comment to The Flint Journal on repercussions for Arnold, citing "personnel" reasons, but said in a statement that additional security measures have been implemented and no students were involved or affected by the incident.

Lapeer County Prosecutor Byron Konschuh tells the paper that Arnold likely will not face criminal charges because no one was harmed in the incident.

"It's almost like no harm no foul," Konschuh said.

As part of a series of far-reaching gun control proposals, President Barack Obama recommended Wednesday a federal $150 million "Comprehensive School Safety Program" that would help school districts hire school guards, counselors and other staff -- if those schools choose to do so.

The proposals come one month after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., that renewed national interest in gun control.

In Arizona, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has launched a pet project that sends 500 uniformed volunteers, some armed with automatic weapons, to patrol dozens of schools in the Phoenix area. Critics have called the move "crazy."

And in 1999, armed guards at Columbine High School still failed to stop what LaPierre calls "a bad guy with a gun" in the deadliest mass shooting at an American high school.

Experts also say that bringing weapons onto school grounds would do more harm than good.

"Singular horrible events like [the Sandy Hook shooting] make us all upset, but if we look at the data, it doesn't make sense that that's where we need to beef up security in a very expensive way -- not only financially but also at the cost of our children's feeling of security," Kenneth Dodge, director of the Center for Child and Family Policy at Duke University told The Huffington Post last month. "Isn't it more straightforward to just get rid of the guns?"
I'm pro gun, but I just thought it was interesting
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that must of been one hell of a sh1t.



Guns are tools. But stupid, irnresponsible people have access to tools.

Next thing you know someone is going ot start killing people with a hammer, and then there will be hammer control laws.
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Not defending the action, but at least it was not loaded.

That being said, why is he carrying a handgun that was not loaded? Pointless.

The guy should be fired on the spot.
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Guy should be fired and charged with a misdemeanor.
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that must of been one hell of a sh1t.



Guns are tools. But stupid, irnresponsible people have access to tools.

Next thing you know someone is going ot start killing people with a hammer, and then there will be hammer control laws.
Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
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Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
A gun is designed fot hunting, defense, collecting, shooting,


but any tool in the wrong hand can be used to kill someone. more people are killed by hammers than guns every year.
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edit: ah, shlt, it wasn't funny in retrospect.

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Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
Sorry to go off topic, but Marijuana IS a natural medicine that has been used for thousands of years. But thats another subject. carry on.
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Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
Actually it is a tool designed to kill something / someone else. Unless you're doing it wrong.

It is a tool for hunting.
It is a tool for self defense.

Arguing the effects of the tool is a separate discussion. Guns are a means to an end. Whether than end is filled with good intent or bad intent, keeping or breaking the law, is up to the user.

Just like a fork. Or chainsaw. Or anything else that can be used for bad.
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Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
ORLY? Mine havent killed anyone except a lot of paper. You think Glock will honor a warranty claim? Maybe mine is broken, since it hasn't killed anyone yet.
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Sorry to go off topic, but Marijuana IS a natural medicine that has been used for thousands of years. But thats another subject. carry on.
So is cocaine, and I agree with you. Carry on.
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ORLY? Mine havent killed anyone except a lot of paper. You think Glock will honor a warranty claim? Maybe mine is broken, since it hasn't killed anyone yet.
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A gun is designed for collecting.
That's like saying cars are designed to be collected. They're designed to transport people from one location to another. A gun is designed to fire a round at a high velocity over a given distance in order to penetrate and object and cause it damage.

They were created to damage people and animals. Everything that came afterwards was an after thought.

I support gun rights. I enjoy firing them. But I am constantly amazed at how retarded some gun advocates are. Stop convincing yourself they're for collecting and shooting paper targets. It forces people to question the intelligence of some gun owners, which is a scary thought considering they want or currently own a deadly weapon.
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That's like saying cars are designed to be collected. They're designed to transport people from one location to another. A gun is designed to fire a round at a high velocity over a given distance in order to penetrate and object and cause it damage.

They were created to damage people and animals. Everything that came afterwards was an after thought.

I support gun rights. I enjoy firing them. But I am constantly amazed at how retarded some gun advocates are. Stop convincing yourself they're for collecting and shooting paper targets. Really questions the intelligence of some gun owners, which is a scary thought considering they want or currently own a deadly weapon.
that is one of the things they are for. some people just like them and never shot them. People collect cars and they are not driven.
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Okay, I'm pro gun, but the "guns are just tools" thing is probably the worst argument of them all. It's on par with people saying "marijuana is a medicine." It's such a bullshit argument.

A hammer is a tool. It is designed for driving in a nail.

A fork is a tool. It is designed to hold food.

A car is a tool. It is designed to get you from A to B.

A gun is a tool. It is designed to kill you.

That's the difference.
My guns are not designed to kill anyone.
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that is one of the things they are for. some people just like them and never shot them. People collect cars and they are not driven.
I can use the butt of a Glock to tenderize meat. That doesn't give me the excuse to argue why everyone should have unrestricted access to them.


Seriously... it's not a difficult concept to grasp.
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I can use the butt of a Glock to tenderize meat. That doesn't give me the excuse to argue why everyone should have unrestricted access to them.


Seriously... it's not a difficult concept to grasp.
You're right. It isn't. Guns don't kill people. 30 round mags are no more dangerous than 10 round. And rifles are no more dangerous than hand guns.
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I can use the butt of a Glock to tenderize meat. That doesn't give me the excuse to argue why everyone should have unrestricted access to them.


Seriously... it's not a difficult concept to grasp.
the butt of a gun woudl be a great tenderizer.

just like a meat tenderizer woudl smash the fvck out of someones head if used incorrectly.
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the butt of a gun woudl be a great tenderizer.

just like a meat tenderizer woudl smash the fvck out of someones head if used incorrectly.
Putting a gun in a glass display case for all to see is using it incorrectly. Stop arguing that they should be accessible because they can be used for other things and that all other inanimate objects can be used to kill people.

Argue the 2nd Amendment. Argue a right to protect yourself. A right to hunt and kill your own food. Don't waste everyone's time with your pussy ass "I should be allowed to shoot paper" argument.
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