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Old 01-17-2013, 03:02 PM   #21
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So if a temp. tax cut expires, taxes DO NOT GO UP?

Do you guys even read what you type?
Yes, they went back up to the rates you were paying when BushCo was in office.

Comgratulations. You're paying republican tax rates again.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:15 PM   #22
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Yes, they went back up to the rates you were paying when BushCo was in office.

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Yes, they went back up to the rates you were paying when BushCo was in office.

Comgratulations. You're paying republican tax rates again.
So........

a tax INCREASE.

(but if you knew about the increase, it was from SS tax cut from Obama, not Bush. You are to used to blaming Bush for Obama's failure.)

Who do you blame for the failures of the past 4 years. (the previous administration?)
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:13 PM   #24
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An EXPIRED TAX CUT THAT OBAMA GAVE YOU.

You are now paying the same tax rates you were paying when Bush was in office.

Please let me know which words are giving you trouble.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:16 PM   #25
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An EXPIRED TAX CUT THAT OBAMA GAVE YOU.

You are now paying the same tax rates you were paying when Bush was in office.

Please let me know which words are giving you trouble.
I'm confused. Did you mean to say that Bush gave the Bush era Tax Cuts, Obama extended them in his first term, and now they are expiring?

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Old 01-21-2013, 06:24 PM   #26
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No.

I'm saying that Obama gave everyone a temporary tax cut after he took office, and that temporary tax cut has now expired. The tax cut disappeared because republicans refused to raise taxes on the wealthy.
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An EXPIRED TAX CUT THAT OBAMA GAVE YOU.

You are now paying the same tax rates you were paying when Bush was in office.

Please let me know which words are giving you trouble.
Simple question: "Are the majority of Americans taxes higher today than last year?
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Simple question: "Are the majority of Americans taxes higher today than last year?
It's convenient to look at things in a short time frame, isn't it? lol


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Simple question: "Are the majority of Americans taxes higher today than last year?
Another simple question: Why is everyone bltching because they're paying the same taxes they were paying when Obama took office?
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It's convenient to look at things in a short time frame, isn't it? lol


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Another simple question: Why is everyone bltching because they're paying the same taxes they were paying when Obama took office?
I'm aware of the reasoning for the tax rate to come back. I'm speaking on the behalf of the people who are b1tching.

Regardless if the SS tax was temporary or any reasoning behind its bump back, it is all moot.. People were told their tax rates will not increase and their tax rate increased. Are you saying Obama's campaign is a prescription drug commercial and at the end he rambled some last second fine print in there about SS tax coming back? Do you really think half the ass wipes that vote are really capable of understanding why or how that tax bump came back?

This why entitlements suck because once you give it is hard to take it back.
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I'm aware of the reasoning for the tax rate to come back. I'm speaking on the behalf of the people who are b1tching.

Regardless if the SS tax was temporary or any reasoning behind its bump back, it is all moot.. People were told their tax rates will not increase and their tax rate increased. Are you saying Obama's campaign is a prescription drug commercial and at the end he rambled some last second fine print in there about SS tax coming back? Do you really think half the ass wipes that vote are really capable of understanding why or how that tax bump came back?

This why entitlements suck because once you give it is hard to take it back.
What was the rate when Obama took office? 6.2%, correct? What is it now?
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What was the rate when Obama took office? 6.2%, correct? What is it now?
6.2 sounds right, which more than last year.
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What was the rate when Obama took office? 6.2%, correct? What is it now?
So Bush wasn't that bad after all eh?
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So Bush wasn't that bad after all eh?
You won't see me blaming everything on Bush. Never have. He was far from a great POTUS, but he wasn't the demon that liberals make him out to be. I even voted for him



Also, as a side note, Obama and Dubya are strikingly similar.
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You won't see me blaming everything on Bush. Never have. He was far from a great POTUS, but he wasn't the demon that liberals make him out to be. I even voted for him



Also, as a side note, Obama and Dubya are strikingly similar.
They were both presidents and the congress during their terms was bogus?
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Got a 3% raise this year... but after taxes (that increased) I only got like a dollar extra to my take home pay
Somebody has to pay for those who are unwilling to put their best foot forward.
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They were both presidents and the congress during their terms was bogus?
And they are both closer to the center than the majority of their respective parties.
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