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Old 10-08-2012, 11:12 AM   #21
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Depending on your key hole position in the glove box when you lock the car, it can be:
a) locked all the time
b) unlocked all the time
c) locked (automatically) when you lock your car, then unlocked automatically when you unlock it.

I think C is the straight up position.

If it's locked and it won't open, try forcing the key to the left IIRC, and then try to open. Use different force/touch as I said below if that doesn't work.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:41 PM   #22
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I got mine open by using a small screwdriver to push up on the metal latch that you can see when you pull the latch handle. There are many posts on this site about the convertible glovebox. BMW put extra security in the convertible so that you can store valuables in the glovebox or trunk with the top down.

The glovebox latch contains a microswitch that locks out the trunk, along with a worm drive postioner that can (and will) prevent the glovebox from being opened when the car is locked.

I'm only partially down the trail to fixing the glovebox. I can open it with a key on a regular basis, and it occasionally drops open when I use the key remote to unlock the car. Kinda like my wife, I haven't got her figured out, but she's livable, and I enjoy the challenge.

See my reply to "Glovebox won't open" in the general e46 thread for a pic of the latch and the metal latch pin that I pushed to open the lock.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:32 PM   #23
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I opened it up, but couldnt quite figure out what the circular ball piece did and how it locks in this or that key position.
Ive been told its s simple part/module that needs to be replaced, bu i havent a clue, what or where?
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:53 AM   #24
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That ball is what moves the lock into place. I actually bought a used vert glovebox (including the lock mechanism), and switched the internals of the lock with mine. So, I had my lock on the outside, and other "new to me" internals on the inside. That did the trick for me. Guessing you could just buy a new lock mechanism and do the same.
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Guys this happened to my vert as well, i went to open it and it was locked and not budging. So after trying to fiddle with it for about 15 mins, i got frustrated and locked the doors and went inside. after a while, I came back and unlocked the car and went to try and open the glovebox and it opened the moment i pulled on the handle without a problem. Can anyone explain this? Because now it opens just fine without a problem.

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Old 10-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #26
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Just make sure to tighten the inner screws and count yourself lucky. When I first had my glove box issue, I took it to the deal. The SA played with it for about 10+ minutes, and finally got it to unlock. Took it in another time, and it took him seconds. Apparently sometimes things just happen with these locks. But, that's when I decided to get a different inner mechanism.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:36 PM   #27
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The outer glovebox latch is pn 51167020044 available for $88.56 at www.thebmwpartstore.com. The inner glovebox latch is pn 51168262566 at $45.43 from the same source.

The inner latch is the handle you pull, which is counter intuitive to me, but I'm left handed. Perhaps inner means closest to the center of the car.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:45 PM   #28
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Yup, always thought it was counter intuitive too. So, looks like you can actually transfer your lock to the new mechanism. That's a good feature, so you don't have to use extra keys.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:53 PM   #29
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Locked Glove Box

Thanks guys...that was totally bugging me. I opened the glove box, tightened the screws and now works like a charm!
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The outer glovebox latch is pn 51167020044 available for $88.56 at www.thebmwpartstore.com. The inner glovebox latch is pn 51168262566 at $45.43 from the same source.

The inner latch is the handle you pull, which is counter intuitive to me, but I'm left handed. Perhaps inner means closest to the center of the car.
So do I just buy the one u have pictured on the right?
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:02 AM   #31
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Hey John: How did you actually get the lock mechanism transfered from your old to new latch? I may need to replace the outer latch on the ZHP vert I just picked up last week (Woot! Finally done looking for the right car...) and didn't see exactly what was holding it in place.

I thought it might be the metal pinch pin or hinge, but I couldn't get that to budge either way.

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:08 AM   #32
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So I used MY entire locking mechanism/handle (they call it the inner piece but it's on the outside of the glove box) with a different outer (the piece inside the glove box). So, I didn't need to transfer the actual lock. I just married up the two pieces. The "new" mechanics worked with my lock.

If you do figure out how to transfer just that actual locking mechanism, please post it for us.
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So do I just buy the one u have pictured on the right?
The one on the left (with the key cylinder) has the little plastic knub that breaks off. If yours is broken, you need it.

The key cylinder can be transferred from your old latch. I've seen a post on this site about it somewhere.

I'm probably going to change mine to a coupe latch, which doesn't have all of the electronics, and is much cheaper. I can use the key when I want to lock the glove box. Pns are 51168163017 (outer) $11.30 and 51168163018 (inner) $10.82. That's a complete new setup for less than $25.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:32 PM   #34
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You can transfer the lock cylinder, I just do not recall how I did it.

I also think??? that both doors need to be unlocked for the glove box to unlock?? just like the trunk??

Once key position of the glove box lock is to lock the trunk button out, a Valet mode as I recall?

I ended up breaking the small nub on my Vert latch and that glove box is like a vault. What a PITA to get open. Had to pull the hinge rod and drop the rear of the box, still never put a few of the C clips back in 2 years later!!
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Does anyone have a definitive answer as to what each of the 3 key positions do, and what position it will open in? For the last few weeks my glovebox has been locked and i've tried many of the tips&tricks to no avail. If i turn the key to the right, the handle will move but it doesnt feel like it is attached to anything. If the key is vertical(middle) position, the handle will not move at all. When i try to turn the key to the left there is a lot of resistance, until it pops and lets you turn it all the way left. I read that you can try the lock with the key in the cylinder. When i try this with the key turned left, it rotates back to vertical while i left the handle.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:17 AM   #36
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The key positions are outlined in another thread. Search "glovebox key positions" to find it.

You will have to pick the lock to open it, which is stupid simple. Get a small flat blade screwdriver and flashlight. Stand on your head so you can see between the outer/inner latches as you slightly raise the latch. Push up on the silver looking latch pin with the screwdriver and the glovebox will open. You can the remove the two screws of the latch, take it out, take it apart, and see what's going on.
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