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Old 02-05-2013, 07:14 PM   #241
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Yea that's what i was thinking haha. So i'll just browse and look for the best deal I can online for the nuts and such.






I kinda want to make a nut/seed trail mix for snacks. What other nuts/seeds should I get besides almonds? Other stuff too, like raisins?
Peanuts, walnuts, almonds, pistachios, macadamia nuts all pack a decent protein punch. Also cashews, sunflower seeds and raisins could make a good addition. Festival foods has them fresh in their organic section if you have one near you.

Other good additions would be dehydrated banana chips, apples slices, mangos or maybe orange slices. You can buy a dehydrator and dehydrate them yourself or buy them already dehydrated.

Look back at my protein bar/granola bar recipe. I very highly recommend that as a snack with walnuts, peanuts, almonds and macadamias. Then spread some all natural peanut butter(or regular peanut butter) on top and you have a delicious healthy snack filled with protein that can also satisfy your sweet tooth. And you won't feel guilty if you over indulge


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Old 02-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #242
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Peanuts, walnuts, almonds, pistachios, macadamia nuts all pack a decent protein punch. Also cashews, sunflower seeds and raisins could make a good addition. Festival foods has them fresh in their organic section if you have one near you.

Other good additions would be dehydrated banana chips, apples slices, mangos or maybe orange slices. You can buy a dehydrator and dehydrate them yourself or buy them already dehydrated.

Look back at my protein bar/granola bar recipe. I very highly recommend that as a snack with walnuts, peanuts, almonds and macadamias. Then spread some all natural peanut butter(or regular peanut butter) on top and you have a delicious healthy snack filled with protein that can also satisfy your sweet tooth. And you won't feel guilty if you over indulge


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that granola bar recipe sounds really good. might be just what I need for snacks! Thanks!
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:59 AM   #243
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I get chicken thighs with bones and skin. I take the skin off and then cut them in halves and cook them in a pan. My question for you guys is....

the nutritional value of this chicken. On the package it tells me, but is that with the skin included? If so then how do I figure out what the nutritional value is without the skin?
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:01 AM   #244
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Why aren't you eating the skin is my question? The package will include skin. If you wanted without, I would google "skinless chicken thighs" and go from there.

Eat the skin!
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:06 AM   #245
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I thought the skin was a bunch of unnecessary fat? I'm trying to cut a bit.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:14 AM   #246
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I thought the skin was a bunch of unnecessary fat? I'm trying to cut a bit.
It's almost negligible ... like 50 calories for a regular sized breast.

If you are eating chicken thighs the meat contains a lot more fat than the skin. Eat breasts if you are worried about fat content
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:23 AM   #247
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I thought the skin was a bunch of unnecessary fat? I'm trying to cut a bit.
Have you been paying attention lol. What's your reason for not wanting fat? Do you think it will make you fat because it has the same name?
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:25 AM   #248
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It's almost negligible ... like 50 calories for a regular sized breast.

If you are eating chicken thighs the meat contains a lot more fat than the skin. Eat breasts if you are worried about fat content
Ok i'll look into the price difference.

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Have you been paying attention lol. What's your reason for not wanting fat? Do you think it will make you fat because it has the same name?
Because i'm already getting enough fat from peanut butter and almonds....... EDIT: I think.......

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:32 AM   #249
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What is "enough fat"?
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:09 PM   #250
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What is "enough fat"?
I'll show you my current meal plan. I was going to anyways after you cleared up the chicken question haha.

So here it is, but I haven't added the chicken yet to the 9pm meal.

It is not finished, I know it needs work haha. Right now my protein intake per day is about 160 without the chicken added in. I want to get it up to be around my weight right? Which is about 195lbs.

Please lmk if the other macros are in a good range to cut or not.









9am
Oats & Casein Shake
1 Scoop Casein
1/2 Cup Oats
150 Calories 150 Calories
3g Fat 2.5g Fat
6g Carbs 28g Carbs
25g Protein 5g Protein

300 Calories
5.5g Fat
34g Carbs
30g Protein

12pm
Scrambled Eggs
2 Large Eggs
1/2 Cup Egg Whites
144 Calories 75 Calories
10g Fat 0g Fat
2g Carbs 2g Carbs
12g Protein 15g Protein

219 Calories
10g Fat
4g Carbs
27g Protein

3pm
PB&J With Almonds
28g Raw Almonds
2 Bread Slices Whole Wheat
1tsp Sugar Free Jelly
1tbsp Peanut Butter
160 Calories 160 Calories 3 Calories 190 Calories
15g Fat 2g Fat 0g Fat 16g Fat
6g Carbs 28g Carbs 2g Carbs 8g Carbs
6g Protein 6g Protein 0g Protein 7g Protein

513 Calories
33g Fat
44g Carbs
19g Protein

6pm
PB&J With Almonds
28g Raw Almonds
2 Bread Slices Whole Wheat
1tsp Sugar Free Jelly
1tbsp Peanut Butter
160 Calories 160 Calories 3 Calories 190 Calories
15g Fat 2g Fat 0g Fat 16g Fat
6g Carbs 28g Carbs 2g Carbs 8g Carbs
6g Protein 6g Protein 0g Protein 7g Protein

513 Calories
33g Fat
44g Carbs
19g Protein

9pm
Fried BBQ Chicken w/ Brown Rice and Frozen Veggies
4oz Chicken
1/2 Cup Brown Rice
2/3 Cup Mixed Veggies
2tbsp BBQ Sauce
300 Calories 60 Calories 45 Calories
2g Fat 0g Fat 0g Fat
64g Carbs 11g Carbs 11g Carbs
6g Protein 2g Protein 0g Protein

405 Calories
2g Fat
86g Carbs
8g Protein

11pm
Casein Shake & Almonds
1 Scoop Casein
28g Raw Almonds
150 Calories 160 Calories
3g Fat 15g Fat
6g Carbs 6g Carbs
25g Protein 6g Protein

310 Calories
18g Fat
12g Carbs
31g Protein



Total Macros Per Day:
2,260 calories
101.5g fat
224g carbs
134g protein
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:11 PM   #251
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Have you been paying attention lol. What's your reason for not wanting fat? Do you think it will make you fat because it has the same name?
i get that fat doesnt necessarily make you fat, but it's still the most calorie-dense nutrient. imo, there's still a certain wisdom to avoiding high-fat foods (especially bad fats like what you'd get from chicken skins), especially if you're trying to shed some pounds. am i off here?
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i get that fat doesnt necessarily make you fat, but it's still the most calorie-dense nutrient. imo, there's still a certain wisdom to avoiding high-fat foods (especially bad fats like what you'd get from chicken skins), especially if you're trying to shed some pounds. am i off here?
That's what I thought. I thought fats like fatty skin is bad and fats like in almonds and pb was good.
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i get that fat doesnt necessarily make you fat, but it's still the most calorie-dense nutrient. imo, there's still a certain wisdom to avoiding high-fat foods (especially bad fats like what you'd get from chicken skins), especially if you're trying to shed some pounds. am i off here?
but that isn't the reason most people avoid it. I would bet $1000 that if you swapped the words carbs and fat around you'd see a lot less people in this world eating bread. People are paranoid by the word fat because they associate it directly with fat gain.

If you guys are within your allowable macros for the day there isn't a real reason to be worried about it imo.
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yea but I have enough fat in my diet right?
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yea but I have enough fat in my diet right?
I dont really know. I'm not sure what you need.
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according to this I need 50-60 grams

Right now my body weight is 193

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macr...calculator.htm
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i get that fat doesnt necessarily make you fat, but it's still the most calorie-dense nutrient. imo, there's still a certain wisdom to avoiding high-fat foods (especially bad fats like what you'd get from chicken skins), especially if you're trying to shed some pounds. am i off here?
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That's what I thought. I thought fats like fatty skin is bad and fats like in almonds and pb was good.
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yea but I have enough fat in my diet right?
I need to set the record straight here lol.

The only bad fat is trans fat, which is incredibly easy to avoid. (No margarine, fried foods). Butter is your friend...

Saturated fat is not "bad" for you. It is a complete fat. Polyunsaturated (omega 3 & 6) fats and monounsaturated fats (omega 9) are also not "bad" for you.

The only thing bad about these fats would be if you consumed too much saturated fat and omega 6's (vegetable oils, nuts, peanuts etc.) and no omega 3's (wild fish, flax etc.) ... which is pretty much the "fat problem" within the typical american diet. Too much refined vegetable oil fats, and little to no omega 3. This causes inflammation, which leads to a million different health problems.

They are high in calories, so you need to also respect them.

The only fats you "need" are omega 3's/6's, which the body turns into certain chemicals to help development and brain function etc.

So omega 3 sources are the only "healthy" fats, everything else is just a filler in your diet. And a very tasty one!

As long as you are getting enough protein (at LEAST 1g per lb of bw) and enough carbs to fuel your workouts (100-150g is plenty) if you are working out that day... make up the rest with fat to fit your calorie goals.

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Dom your pb&J sandwiches are killing your diet. PB is an incomplete protein, similar to soy, and its high fat content isn't allowing you the macros you need. Replace at least ONE of them with a hunk of meat and veggies, and you will be a lot closer to your macros guaranteed.
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according to this I need 50-60 grams

Right now my body weight is 193

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macr...calculator.htm
that's insanely low imo and I'm not sure why.
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that's insanely low imo and I'm not sure why.
because its the typical bro calculator, high protein/carbs minimal fat. Chicken & Rice etc.
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Dom your pb&J sandwiches are killing your diet. PB is an incomplete protein, similar to soy, and its high fat content isn't allowing you the macros you need. Replace at least ONE of them with a hunk of meat and veggies, and you will be a lot closer to your macros guaranteed.
what other kind of meat is cheap? Just eat more chicken?
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