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Old 02-08-2013, 10:28 PM   #121
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:14 PM   #122
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Ex is a recognized abbreviation of "example". http://www.abbreviations.com/EX

"i.e." (id est, or that is) makes no sense. If you wanted to change his math/academic abbreviation to latin for some reason, you would use "e.g." (exempli gratia, for example).
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People of all socioeconomic levels fall into the "thug trap". Just look at Tommy Hilfiger's son who obviously has taken that bait. I have many black colleagues who speak far more eloquently than whites, asians, or Latinos. It's all about choice.


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You're in school... in the working world, you're buddy with the 4.0 GPA will have a VERY hard time getting a job is he can't learn to properly express himself in a mature fashion. I'm involved in all new sales hires at my company and can assure you that anyone who walked in using the work yo (or any variation) would immediately get laughed out of the building... and there is nothing wrong with that as proper English/grammar a mandatory qualification of a worthwhile candidate.
Come on, Chase. We're writing in a thread about grammar. That said, I agree with what you're saying here. Some jobs (e.g. client-facing jobs) require that employees be able to conduct themselves and express themselves in a professional manner. Anyone who can't change their slang during work or an interview will "get laughed out of the building"

How would you feel if your doctor walked in, saying: "Yo Mr. White, looks like that 5-FU inhibitor ain't doing so good on your lung cancer, we gotta step it up to some surgical sh!t before that sh!t spreads."
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:29 AM   #123
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How would you feel if your doctor walked in, saying: "yo mr. White, looks like that 5-fu inhibitor ain't doing so good on your lung cancer, we gotta step it up to some surgical sh!t before that sh!t spreads."
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Since it came up, I'll just mention that when I teach business writing, I often encourage people not to use "i.e." It means "that is" or "in other words," so I say use the other words that explain what you mean clearly and get rid of what was unclear before the i.e. Of course, there are many cases where it's useful, but most of the time it isn't.

If I wrote "come to class prepared; i.e., bring pencil, paper, and a calculator," that would be proper, but I could have just said, "bring pencil, paper, and a calculator."

"E.g." should only be used when you use an example. "There are many ways to participate in class; e.g., shut up and listen, bring the stuff you need, and ask meaningful questions."

I won't otherwise go back and edit all the posts in this thread! This is the Internet, and I almost always understand what you mean, even if it's only vaguely English, and even if it's written on a phone and you have fat fingers. If someone wants to understand, they usually can. If someone wants to show you they're smarter than you, he or she can usually find a grammatical error, mock you for it, and show him or herself to be more knowledgeable, better educated, and a bigger jerk than you.

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Basically, I've known a lot of smart people that couldn't spell or form complete sentences for the life of them. People get called out and overlooked for having bad grammar online all the time, but it's not so cut and dried.
It depends on your industry. Do you work with engineers/scientists? Lots of them are very intelligent but can't write worth a crap.

If you working in finance/HR/business or something along those lines, the people you speak of with poor grammar are actually stupid.

And yes I judge people by their grammar.

There was some study (don't know where I saw it or its reliability) that said something along the lines of: a majority of people end up with someone with similar vocal skills. It also mentioned that they were comfortable texting with similar short hand.
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