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Old 02-13-2013, 02:50 PM   #761
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I think my question was more on the lines of "is the bar being brought up properly if you aren't scraping/touching shins, assuming your lower back is straight."
Yes! The bar is close, but never touches my body.

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:50 PM   #762
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Did you ever post a video of you dead lifting? I'd like to see it.
Nope... and I'd love to post one for form critique, (especially a month ago). Won't get into detail but it would be very difficult for me to film myself without asking for someone to do it (not exactly willing to do this...). I haven't had a workout partner in over a year unfortunately, through no lack of my own trying to obtain one.

I'm deadlifting friday, and I do know some guys that may or may not be there that I would be comfortable asking me to film for a "form check". I'll get it from the side view if they are working out.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:52 PM   #763
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Nope... and I'd love to post one for form critique, (especially a month ago). Won't get into detail but it would be very difficult for me to film myself without asking for someone to do it (not exactly willing to do this...). I haven't had a workout partner in over a year unfortunately, through no lack of my own trying to obtain one.

I'm deadlifting friday, and I do know some guys that may or may not be there that I would be comfortable asking me to film for a "form check". I'll get it from the side view if they are working out.
If they are willing to film (..and you're willing to ask), we'd like to see it.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:52 PM   #764
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ah, gotcha. ya I was more so asking about lifting heavy just 3 days a week with lots of rest, instead of more volume?
No I'm definitely on board that train 100%. Not sure if you saw my progress thread but I'm all about the compounds 3 days a week, I just add more sets than the typical SS program. Works great for my lifestyle

I have a buddy who just started working out on SS though, I think its a great program if it makes sense for the individual.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:54 PM   #765
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If they are willing to film (..and you're willing to ask), we'd like to see it.
Yeah I may even just ask a trainer to film, I just want the individual to understand what I'm trying to achieve (form check).

I'm very interested to see the feedback, considering I personally feel like I've finally nailed it
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:09 PM   #766
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Yeah I may even just ask a trainer to film, I just want the individual to understand what I'm trying to achieve (form check).

I'm very interested to see the feedback, considering I personally feel like I've finally nailed it
it is a little uncomfortable but if you just say "hey would you mind taping this for a second so I can make sure my form is ok" they'll be ok with it I'm sure.

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:13 PM   #767
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it is a little uncomfortable but if you just say "hey would you mind taping this for a second so I can make sure my form is ok" they'll be ok with it I'm sure.
Yeah, and more so the fact they are a trainer so hopefully know how to film it properly. I wouldn't ask 99% of the people in my gym anything. It is filled to the brim with the average idiot or broscience follower.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:07 PM   #768
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Pretty good explanation of why shin burn is a positive sign (from here)

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This is becoming routine now. Every single time I deadlift (well, the work sets anyway), I end up either scraping my shins, or bloody'ing up my knee, sometimes both. Today I somehow managed to get a "rug burn" on my forearm because it was moving up the side of my leg with too much pressure and I guess the thick short hairs cut it. Let's hear your stories.
I scrape mine often, mainly on the overhand side, and it usually happens on the max effort pulls or towards the end of a heavy rep set. All I care about is getting the weight up and keeping the bar close is important. Wearing long pants cuts down on the damage but to be honest it's something you just have to get used to. Missing a lift would piss me off more than beating up my shins.

Those who aren't scraping them at some point probably aren't moving much weight (bar is easier to control), wear shoes with a heel that shifts the weight onto their toes so the bar is out in front rather than letting them "sit back" and drive through the heels, or they're simply stiff-legging them.

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If your scraping your shins your not using proper form.
That's bull****. You want the bar as close as possible to your body. The further away from your hips it is, the harder it is to leverage the weight. Obviously you'd prefer it to be lightly touching the legs than grinding them to pieces because it causes more bar friction, but to suggest it's "not proper form" is garbage. If someone says they're scraping their shins, to me it immediately suggests they're most likely "sitting back" on the deadlift rather than stiff-legging it and that's a good thing.

Ever watched the world's best deadlifters wearing knee high socks or covering their legs in talc?
btw impressive m3inline that you are able to keep the bar incredibly close without actually touching (based on that pic). I like using my shins as a guideline when pulling
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:40 PM   #769
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btw impressive m3inline that you are able to keep the bar incredibly close without actually touching (based on that pic). I like using my shins as a guideline when pulling

Not impressive, I just control the weight. The weight doesn't control me!

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When I first started DL this summer, I scraped up my shins all the time, but now it never happens. I agree that the bar close to your body is key for form, but no need for actual scraping/bloody shins. For my setup, I start with how rippletoe suggests, but the angle of your back and actual starting postion really depends on height and body type.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #771
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135 lbs. (2 x 10 warm-up)
225 lbs. (1 x 10)
315 lbs. (1 x 5)
465 lbs. (1 x 2)
225 lbs. (4 x 9)

...that's an example DL rep scheme that I performed a week ago.
Why the four sets of 225 at the end?

135 (2 x ~8)
225 (1 x 4-5)
275 (1 x 3)
405-410 (1 x 1-2)
370ish (1 x 3-4) try for 5 reps
330ish (one set, at least 5 reps)

I've plateaued again so typically do the same warmup then have working sets at 385ish for two sets, with maybe a single drop set after.

I feel like my max can increase, but actually getting more reps above 400 doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:32 PM   #772
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Why the four sets of 225 at the end?

135 (2 x ~8)
225 (1 x 4-5)
275 (1 x 3)
405-410 (1 x 1-2)
370ish (1 x 3-4) try for 5 reps
330ish (one set, at least 5 reps)

I've plateaued again so typically do the same warmup then have working sets at 385ish for two sets, with maybe a single drop set after.

I feel like my max can increase, but actually getting more reps above 400 doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.

I'm a volume lifter. I shoot for 50+ reps on every/any compound movement (..bench press, front/back squat, power cleans, etc.). I also shoot for 50+ reps on weighted body movements as well.

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I did some light DL today and noticed that my right shin was a bit red (on the overhand side just like in that quote), from a few days ago I guess.

When I first started DL, keeping the bar in contact with my legs was something I focused on. And I remember asking a few people around the gym about it.

I guess I still do it to an extent, but don't notice it anymore due to hardened/scabbed shins and I'm assuming better "stabilizer" muscles for DL.
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Oh and if you think starting strength is too basic, you can try stronglifts, madcow or some other type of variation.

I don't do SS, but 5x5 of bench or squats when you're moving a weight you struggle with can be quite intense.

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Oh and if you think starting strength is too basic, you can try stronglifts, madcow or some other type of variation.

I don't do SS, but 5x5 of bench or squats when you're moving a weight you struggle with can be quite intense.
Strong lifts is SS with 5x5 instead of 3x5 and rows instead of power cleans. If anything SL is more basic.
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If they are willing to film (..and you're willing to ask), we'd like to see it.
I'll post one of a 505 lb deadlier if y'all wanna see
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I'll post one of a 505 lb deadlier if y'all wanna see
I'm always up for viewing video footage.
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