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Old 02-17-2013, 03:14 PM   #101
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I'm a 16 year old with an E46 (granted I have a summer job that doesn't really pay for anything except gas , and a whole lot of it for that matter) but I only have the E46 because it's my fathers old car. It made more sense to let me drive it than to trade it for a new Accord (which we almost did.) I understand why you're frustrated that fewer and fewer Americans these days actually WORK for what they have. I blame the Obama administration, but that's not relevant. I myself absolutely can't stand seeing unintelligent shitheads driving around in cars such as M3's or 911's thinking they know what the hell they're doing. I myself don't think I would want to be held accountable for such a nice car. Before giving me the keys to HIS (notice I don't call it my own) E46, my dad put me through countless hours of both on the road and classroom driving courses. He set numerous rules (must have over a 3.5 GPA, no more than 2 friends in the car at any given time, must have a job before I'm 17, etc) and I wouldn't be surprised if I found some kind of transmitter in the car that tells him my speeds, driving habits, etc. Not because he doesn't trust me, but he doesn't trust my age and adolescent brain. I don't drink, smoke, or listen to the squalid music that some of the members of my generation are fixated with. If you drive through the Sophomore parking lot at my school (notice this doesn't include the nicest cars at my school as most of them belong to the senior class,) you'll see my E46 parked next to one of my best friends' brand new Chrysler 300 limited, a BMW F30 (crazy, I know), two Ford F-150s in the neighborhood of 50k, a Chevy Suburban LTZ (another 50 grand), a Hummer, a few Mustangs (newest generation), and a Comarro. I won't begin to tell you about the numerous Mercedes', BMW's, Escalades and Range Rovers you'll find in the upperclassmen's parking lot. Come to think of it, the kids at my school with the nicest cars are the ones with the most un-impressive grades and the ones who drink on a weekly basis and even drive home after consuming alcohol. Other than the internal damage that being spoiled does to some kids, having so many nice cars on the streets must be doing some good (I.e. stimulating the auto industry.) Definitely an interesting topic.
Nice to see you're thinking about what you've got and how you got it. You've got a good handle of the internal family politics that you can see.

That said, seems to me that being able to buy your kid a $50,000 car puts you in the one percent or very close to it. And they're the only one's who've seen their income grow over the past decade as the wealth gap has widened because the richest Americans benefitted from tax cuts and other boondoggles by the Bush administration and the Republican Congress.

In short, I'm paying for that kid's Range Rover.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...p-widened.html

And as for the idea that poor people don't work, I put in more hours than anyone I know--I'm working on a Sunday afternoon and fell asleep at my computer on Saturday night-- but I would never insult my father's memory to suggest that I work anywhere near as hard as he did. Artful takedown of David Brooks's "work ethic" by the very funny Matti Taibbi.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010...them-eat-work/

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Old 02-17-2013, 03:29 PM   #102
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Nice to see you're thinking about what you've got and how you got it. You've got a good handle of the internal family politics that you can see.

That said, seems to me that being able to buy your kid a $50,000 car puts you in the one percent or very close to it. And they're the only one's who've seen their income grow over the past decade as the wealth gap has widened because the richest Americans benefitted from tax cuts and other boondoggles by the Bush administration and the Republican Congress.

In short, I'm paying for that kid's Range Rover.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...p-widened.html

And as for the idea that poor people don't work, I put in more hours than anyone I know--I'm working on a Sunday afternoon and fell asleep at my computer on Saturday night-- but I would never insult my father's memory to suggest that I work anywhere near as hard as he did. Artful takedown of David Brooks's "work ethic" by the very funny Matti Taibbi.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010...them-eat-work/
Sorry if I offended you. The comment I made in reference to the Obama administration was directed more towards the people that are currently receiving cash handouts from the government and sitting on their asses. They're going to make great country more decrepit than it already is. I do attend a private high school in south Florida which probably explains why most kids have rather high end cars. I was really trying to reinforce the OP's mindset while also making a point that not EVERY teenager driving a nice car is a complete noob.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:31 PM   #103
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LMFAO what are u 40 or something.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:35 PM   #104
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LMFAO what are u 40 or something.
Nah just intelligent...I swear I'm 16
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