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Old 02-18-2013, 02:29 PM   #21
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Your engine is not a 8 year toddler. It doesn't not need a blanket or for you to sodimize it
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:46 PM   #22
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Dude no offense but I live in Pittsburgh as well and so does another 1000 e46 and e36 and noone complains about this cold **** for our cars lol
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Is OP high again?

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=970812

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Anyone who has less than a 750 post count can leave instantly. And yes, it does matter. I understand the argument of "hey, I have it worse than you, so don't worry"...but that doesn't cut it for me. I'm about my own self-standard, and I keep my self standard high. Maybe I wanted to keep my car for more than 200,000 miles with original internals. Having these horrendous cold starts is not helping anything. Unlike you guys, I plan on keeping this for a while. You might beat yours up and ditch it a couple years from now. BASED ON THE SITUATION I AM GIVEN, I am asking for help. Not "Hey OP, why don't you go buy a new house and stop btching." Right now, I'm fixing the immediate problem with precision and accuracy. Not a "cover all, ignorant" approach. And if someone here believe that these things are useless; tell me why they make them. Tell me why they are even offered.

I can honestly say that the number 1 killer of older cars is the cold. Hey, raising the engine bay temperature 20 degrees might not seem like a big deal to you; but to me, that sounds like a great deal. My car seems flawless at 40 degrees and above. At 20, it doesn't feel right to me. Cposk and Luke- I thank you for trying to help me out and for providing your own testament.

It has been proven that block heaters reduce bearing wear, and reduce engine wear. Maybe if you idiots read a informative journal article once or twice and stopped using barnyard logic.

And Alonso (wickedly), I don't wanna hear about your car running fine. Your car ran like garbage for a couple months last year, and that was in the warm spring. No offense, but stay in your lane. We have different situations. I drive my car daily, at least 30 miles each day, and I want it to last and to be healthy for all those years.

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Old 02-18-2013, 03:44 PM   #26
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Op- you live in Pittsburgh, not the Yukon. You don't need this. Use a thinner oil and stop worrying.
Thinner oil is not LL-01 Spec. GTFO.
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What I meant was having to put the blanket under there, plug it in, then remove it before starting the car. And I agree that it is not "ideal" to start the car in 5 degrees, it was taken into account when the engine was designed.

And I'm very aware of the car stalling out. I have to keep my foot on the gas to stop my E46 from stalling out at a stop in the morning (but I thought doing the vanos seals would fix it).
Glad to see you understand. Guarenteed in the warmer weather, it runs better.
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That's true. However, there was this - http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...9&postcount=17. It may be worth contacting someone to find out if its a scam. In any event, my point is this: if you're going to do this (regardless of whether or not you need to), do it right.

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You live in Pittsburgh. Just let it be. It doesn't get that cold there.
Oh yes it does.
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Then don't get one. The blanket idea is silly.

OP starts post asking for opinions, then argues with the ones he gets. <3 this forum.
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I mean you COULD just get a cheapo warming blanket that you would normally sleep under. I would imagine that it will keep the engine a tad bit warmer than without it. Certainly wouldn't cost you 200 bucks.
Wouldn't throw any heat at all.
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In the cold what i usually do is, turn the key, the vehicle starts and idle for a few moments and then i fly away.
Its colder here in Toronto than where you are. You dont need a block heater or a blanket.
Everyone in cold weather essentially needs one. You just aren't fanatic enough.

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Agreed. It gets subzero here where I'm at in Ohio in the winter sometimes. Tdot is about 5 hours NORTH of where I am and if he doesn't need one, neither do you.
Still pretty damn cold here.
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People do use warming blankets for their vehicles here in Toledo and they DO work. My GF's car and her brothers truck both have issues starting when its less than 10 degrees F. He uses a warming blanket on his truck and it works great for him. The point is with these cars, you don't frickin need it where hes living.
Toledo is barely north of Pittsburgh on terms of a global scale of weather, argument not valid.
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How about just keeping it in the garage?

Just trying to get my post count up to 750 so I can become creditable.
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This entire thread is lame and op is a tool. So cuz they make heating blankets means they must be a good idea, That's dumb. U know nothing of bearings or anything mechanical. Your car is fine, you don't need anything. I've Been building engines for 9 years. Take it or leave it.

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Laugh at post count.....You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper my man.

And as far as me barely being north of Pittsburgh. You are correct. It's not much difference than Toledo. BUT I STILL DONT NEED A BLANKET YOU MUPPET. Which validates my point entirely. You do not need one either. Stop being a tool. Your post count means jack ****. Your join date means jack ****. All of that means not a god damn thing in the real world of intelligence and common sense.
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This entire thread is lame and op is a tool. So cuz they make heating blankets means they must be a good idea, That's dumb. U know nothing of bearings or anything mechanical. Your car is fine, you don't need anything. I've Been building engines for 9 years. Take it or leave it.

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I think most engine builders will say that, but also agree that most of your normal wear and tear bearing damage comes from cold starts. So it may not be a issue when building a high horsepower motor, but will come into play when attempting to drive on original internals for 400k+ miles.

EDIT: Actually my engineering buddies talk more about cylinder wall scoring than bearing damage.
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Anyone who has less than a 750 post count can leave instantly. And yes, it does matter. I understand the argument of "hey, I have it worse than you, so don't worry"...but that doesn't cut it for me. I'm about my own self-standard, and I keep my self standard high. Maybe I wanted to keep my car for more than 200,000 miles with original internals. Having these horrendous cold starts is not helping anything. Unlike you guys, I plan on keeping this for a while. You might beat yours up and ditch it a couple years from now. BASED ON THE SITUATION I AM GIVEN, I am asking for help. Not "Hey OP, why don't you go buy a new house and stop btching." Right now, I'm fixing the immediate problem with precision and accuracy. Not a "cover all, ignorant" approach. And if someone here believe that these things are useless; tell me why they make them. Tell me why they are even offered.

I can honestly say that the number 1 killer of older cars is the cold. Hey, raising the engine bay temperature 20 degrees might not seem like a big deal to you; but to me, that sounds like a great deal. My car seems flawless at 40 degrees and above. At 20, it doesn't feel right to me. Cposk and Luke- I thank you for trying to help me out and for providing your own testament.

It has been proven that block heaters reduce bearing wear, and reduce engine wear. Maybe if you idiots read a informative journal article once or twice and stopped using barnyard logic.

And Alonso (wickedly), I don't wanna hear about your car running fine. Your car ran like garbage for a couple months last year, and that was in the warm spring. No offense, but stay in your lane. We have different situations. I drive my car daily, at least 30 miles each day, and I want it to last and to be healthy for all those years.

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making a thread and then arguing with everyone about why you should buy a blanket for your car is no way to make friends, sounds like you have your mind made up...

since you are going to bash everyone here...

your right, i have 50 something posts on this forum, that doesnt make me stupid, or ignorant; in fact, you are the ignorant one, thinking that the number of times you post really matters..

i think its great you want to keep your car for 200,000 miles, i really do, but youre not alone.. Look around man, i hear about e46ers all over the place whose cars have 200,000, 250,000, even over 350,000 miles on their car, and they have never put a blanket on the engine... just saying, not arguing...

youre right, horrendous cold starts arent helping anything, but then again neither is starting the engine, period. for every rev you are wearing out internal parts. not to mention the fact that i am 99.9% sure the engineers thought about the fact that people who own this car may live in cold weather...

i dont plan on ditching my car in a couple of years, if i did i wouldnt take the time to check this forum regularly, and im sure im not alone.. i have 135000 mi on my car, blanket free, engine breathing in the brutally cold Chicago air 6 months out of the 12, and it shows no sign of stopping anytime soon.. think about that

What situation? the cold?! let me just say this.. i saw a 90s dodge neon today, running fine in the cold; if that engine can, yours can too.. if you still do think so, you ought to move to another city..

your not fixing a problem because you never had a problem to begin with.. as i said, the cold isnt a problem for the vast majority of cars on the road today.. lots of people have to start their cars up every morning, same as you, and you dont see all of them tucking their engines in for the night before they head inside.. maybe you do, i dont at least..

ill tell you why they are offered.. MONEY.. do you think the makers of these blankets you speak of give a sh!it about your engine?! no! in fact, they are probably well aware that they dont make a notable difference in the long run, but it costs them little money to make, and they make a profit, so why do they care?

i dont know what MY your car is, but it cant be older than 14, and for the modern engine, especially the modern BMW engine, its practically getting out of bed..

youre right again!! at 20 degrees, my car doesnt feel right to me either! the gearbox is stiff, the engine is loud, and not that responsive, it takes more effort to move, sort of like me.. because its COLD.. fluids need to warm up, metal needs to warm up.. something your blanket may or may not do.. youd be lucky to warm everything up by 10 degrees, and on a windy night? dont even think about it..

OK, its proven that block heaters reduce engine wear.. thats it? thats all youve got? maybe you should open the cover of that informational journal youre telling us to read and get some statistics for us, and establish some credibility for yourself.. not to mention the fact that you are arguing about a BLANKET, not a BLOCK HEATER..

ive concluded that in your situation youd be much happier in Miami, 80 degrees all year, dont have to worry about your engine being cold..

so, take my advice, or dont, ill sleep well tonight either way, knowing my engine will last just as long as yours...
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OP,if you want your block heated,use a block heater. I use one for my build Big Block Chevy and it certainly helps. The OEM BMW heaters are excellent. And like all oem BMW parts,they cost a little extra than a generic item but have a proven track record to function. It is likely that if your car runs that rough when cold there is a maintenance issue that should be addressed. Still an OEM block heater would be a nice usefull addition anyway.

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Yea my car was running like **** with cold starts and everything Falling apart. I DIY everything on my own and now it runs ****ing great and yea I might not drive it everyday as you do but we both live under the same temperature . And I'm sure this winter is not as cold as the storm that hit us like 3yrs ago .
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Sweetness,

You probably don't need the block heater, but if it was you or someone else that said the car ran rough, cold or otherwise, that could be a number of things.

I think Saab makes a block heater if you have your heart set on it. I don't think it's necessary, but won't hurt anything.

We do have cars up in Canada here without any sort of heater, though I'm sure the car would like it to be a little warmer.

Some nights, when it gets really cold, I'll do down in the garage and snuggle up inside engine bay...I use a thick blanket, coz otherwise I wake up with the dipstick in an uncomfortable spot!
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My brother's (formally mine) E36 325is is now at 275k miles, completely stock internals, one clutch replacement ever, basic routine maintenance done yearly (not as much now since my brother is a nitwit) and it's run 87 octane most of it's life. Has compression in all 6 cylinders, purrs like a kitten at 700RPM at idle and shifts smoothly through every gear.

You clearly underestimate the durability of a BMW's inline 6's. In the long run it'd be a lot less of a headache to just replace stuff when/if it breaks (10 years from now maybe, but even that is unlikely aside from your wimpy AT) rather than tucking your car in every night and telling it fairy tales.
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