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Old 02-19-2013, 01:25 PM   #121
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I get sore in my whole back, rear delts, and hamstrings a little bit. Not arms, chest, quads.
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lol wut?
My whole back, hamstrings, rear delts, and lower inner part of chest. I have to say DL is the best whole body exercise. I find it strange that my chest gets sore from DLs.

I think it's because I pinch my shoulder blades together at the end of the DL, which requires some support from chest, with heavy weights chest gets its share of soreness. Don't you guys pinch your shoulder blades when deadlifting?
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My whole back, hamstrings, rear delts, and lower inner part of chest. I have to say DL is the best whole body exercise. I find it strange that my chest gets sore from DLs.

I think it's because I pinch my shoulder blades together at the end of the DL, which requires some support from chest, with heavy weights chest gets its share of soreness. Don't you guys pinch your shoulder blades when deadlifting?
yea could be. Dude my bis have gotten sore from chest day because I lifted the weighs up to my knees. My bis dont even get sore on bi day lol
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:03 PM   #123
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WTF

what chest exercise were you doing that require you to lift weights to your knees?

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yea could be. Dude my bis have gotten sore from chest day because I lifted the weighs up to my knees. My bis dont even get sore on bi day lol
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:22 PM   #124
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WTF

what chest exercise were you doing that require you to lift weights to your knees?
Dumbbell benching. How else do you get weights up to your knees. Try not to freak out so much next time lol. Go look at my ass pic and relax.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:42 PM   #125
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Lesson learned, start with incline DBs before BB presses. Chest was sore from DLs, but did chest today anyway.

Why? The BB presses are what's going to put mass on you.


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Sore from dead lifts?
I get sore fairly often from dead lifts.


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Yes, pretty much my whole body mostly back/rear delts and lower chest. You don't get sore?
I feel it everywhere except my chest after I dead lift. Actually, my chest is usually a bit sore too because I bench on my dead lift days.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:10 PM   #126
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Why? The BB presses are what's going to put mass on you.




I get sore fairly often from dead lifts.




I feel it everywhere except my chest after I dead lift. Actually, my chest is usually a bit sore too because I bench on my dead lift days.
lol you're agreeing with me. I'm talking about chest soreness from deadlifts. Not general soreness.
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As you see I have increased volume on chest day. Doing DB after BB, I was tired and did not lift as much as usual. But in general, I thought it's recommended to do DB incline first, then BB. No?

I have been getting stronger and lifting more, I'm always sore especially on back and shoulder days. Some guys rarely get sore, not sure if it' a good, bad, or natural thing.

Chest (inner lower part) is sore from DLs, as I said it's because I pinch my shoulder blades at the end of each rep.

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Why? The BB presses are what's going to put mass on you.


I get sore fairly often from dead lifts.


I feel it everywhere except my chest after I dead lift. Actually, my chest is usually a bit sore too because I bench on my dead lift days.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:24 PM   #128
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Freak out? Yours ass would look much better if you have some anal bleaching done so I can fab to it lol

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Dumbbell benching. How else do you get weights up to your knees. Try not to freak out so much next time lol. Go look at my ass pic and relax.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:30 PM   #129
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As you see I have increased volume on chest day. Doing DB after BB, I was tired and did not lift as much as usual. But in general, I thought it's recommended to do DB incline first, then BB. No?

Chest (inner lower part) is sore from DLs, as I said it's because I pinch my shoulder blades at the end of each rep.
You were tired because............wait for it!..........the BB bench press is a compound lift that requires a lot from the body (..when performed properly). If you are looking to put on size, I'd prioritize barbell work before dumbbell work.

Also, pinching your shoulder blades at the end of each rep is unnecessary. Your focus should be driving your hips through the movement.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:38 PM   #131
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I'm curious to hear what you think about this, it makes so much sense:

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs...pros-and-cons/

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You were tired because............wait for it!..........the BB bench press is a compound lift that requires a lot from the body (..when performed properly). If you are looking to put on size, I'd prioritize barbell work before dumbbell work.

Also, pinching your shoulder blades at the end of each rep is unnecessary. Your focus should be driving your hips through the movement.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:40 PM   #132
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I'm curious to hear what you think about this, it makes so much sense:

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs...pros-and-cons/


I've read stuff like that before, and it doesn't change my opinion of the big lifts. Do what you want though. It's your choice.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:47 PM   #133
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I think balance is good. I don't do BB incline, always DB incline. I do flat BB presses now as it's a good change from DB one. Important part is doing it correctly.

I know most of personal trainers at the two gyms I go to recommend DB presses over BB. They only recommend BB presses for guys that are into Olympic power lifting.

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I've read stuff like that before, and it doesn't change my opinion of the big lifts. Do what you want though. It's your choice.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:53 PM   #134
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I think balance is good. I don't do BB incline, always DB incline. I do flat BB presses now as it's a good change from DB one. Important part is doing it correctly.

I know most of personal trainers at the two gyms I go to recommend DB presses over BB. They only recommend BB presses for guys that are into Olympic power lifting.

Balance is definitely good. I mix up incline dumbbell/barbell movements often, but I ALWAYS flat bench. The barbell is the way to put mass on and widen your frame. I'd wager that the trainers - assuming that they know what they are doing and aren't just regurgitating information derived from media sources - recommend dumbbell over barbell because they are more idiot-proof. Rarely does anybody f@ck themselves up doing dumbbell work; the same can't be said for barbell work (..and that goes for any type of barbell work; it requires more from the lifter).

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We're in agreement. I talked to few personal trainers and they said they keep beginners away from DLs and squats. But I guess BB presses also require good form to avoid injury.

However, 2 years ago I had a rotator cuff injury, my surgeon showed me in xrays that my shoulders were impinged especially right one. After 6 months of PT, when I started doing light workouts, only BB and dips used to bother my shoulders really bad. So that's why I stay away from incline BB. Flat BB is fine as long as one does not go over 90 angle and do it right.

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Balance is definitely good. I mix up incline dumbbell/barbell movements often, but I ALWAYS flat bench. The barbell is the way to put mass on and widen your frame. I'd wager that the trainers - assuming that they know what they are doing and aren't just regurgitating information derived from media sources - recommend dumbbell over barbell because they are more idiot-proof. Rarely does anybody f@ck themselves up doing dumbbell work; the same can't be said for barbell work (..and that goes for any type of barbell work; it requires more from the lifter).
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We're in agreement. I talked to few personal trainers and they said they keep beginners away from DLs and squats. But I guess BB presses also require good form to avoid injury.

However, 2 years ago I had a rotator cuff injury, my surgeon showed me in xrays that my shoulders were impinged especially right one. After 6 months of PT, when I started doing light workouts, only BB and dips used to bother my shoulders really bad. So that's why I stay away from incline BB. Flat BB is fine as long as one does not go over 90 angle and do it right.
I've also had rotator cuff injuries caused by improper bench technique. Fixed my technique (..mainly correcting at the elbows and contracting my lats harder).........no more issues!........which is why I'm achieving bench numbers that exceed what I was able to do previously.

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What exactly did you have to fix? Any good guides on proper form?

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I've also had rotator cuff injuries caused by improper bench technique. Fixed my technique (..mainly correcting at the elbows and contracting my lats harder).........no more issues!........which is why I'm achieving bench numbers that exceed what I was able to do previously.
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What exactly did you have to fix? Any good guides on proper form?
I stated it in parentheses. Elbow correction and lat engagement. In the past, I was benching with "my arms and shoulders", which is what led to the rotator cuff issues. With proper form, my back/lats/legs play a HUGE role, and I don't have shoulder issues any longer.



I set my bench press position up almost exactly like this.

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Good tips, thx. Too bad video was not showing foot/leg position. I tend to arch my back like in your video and push with my legs when pressing. But I read that's normal.

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I stated it in parentheses. Elbow correction and lat engagement. In the past, I was benching with "my arms and shoulders", which is what led to the rotator cuff issues. With proper form, my back/lats/legs play a HUGE role, and I don't have shoulder issues any longer.

I set my bench press position up almost exactly like this.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:55 PM   #140
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After 2 weeks of doing high reps back squats today my numbers jumped 10lbs with heavy weights.

Using Olympic grip instead of cross over grip on front squat felt so much better I got 1 more rep than last time.

Legs

Front squats
1 x 5 155lbs
2 x 4 155lbs

Back squats
2 x 8 185lbs
2 x 4 205lbs
1 x 5 205lbs

Lounges
2 x 10 30lbs DBs (per leg)

Lying leg curls
1 x 10 110lbs
2 x 9 120lbs

Romanian deadlift (only 1 set as my lower back was hurting, so I stopped, pain went away after foam rolling)
1 x 10 60lbs
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