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Old 02-19-2013, 06:01 PM   #121
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I'm positive that Klipsch makes good stuff, that's why all of the speakers I own are Klipsch. But when it comes to subwoofers, is there really that much of a difference until you get to the high end of stuff? If so...then what makes a better subwoofer? A $200 Polk or a $700 Klipsch. I imagine that there is a bit of badge pricing on speakers no matter what you buy, but how much is there?
A $200 Polk will not be better than a $700 anything.

The cheap subwoofer prices I quoted earlier were for a package deal from Polk promo. If you buy $500 in speakers, you get $300 off any subwoofer.

This is a fantastic deal especially when you get the $500 in speakers on sale.

Basically, you can get $600 or $700 in speakers on sale for $500 and a $500 sub for $200. So $1200 package for $700 with warranty. Plus save $100+ on shipping plus another $100 and taxes. Etc.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:05 PM   #122
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This is 99% complete horsesh1t.

WTF does "separation between low, mid and highs" mean?

Personally, I think center channels are overrated. Properly positioned stereo mains can give you the same effect. And when center channels are D'Appolito configured and laid horizontal (like 90% of center channels are, for some reason), they can flat out suck. D'Appolito (mid-tweet-mid) = awful off-axis response. That's the whole point, to let the two speakers partially cancel each other out off-axis in order to reduce ceiling reflections. When laid on its side and used as a center channel, it means that people sitting to one side or the other get a crappy center channel performance.
It depends. For music, you're right, stereo is better imo. For multimedia use, I think a center channel can certainly enhance the experience.

Separation between lows, mids and highs is a real thing, but it can be good or bad. You really don't want to be able to identify frequencies coming from a particular driver- be it a sub, midbass, midrange or tweeter. That's the issue with crazy good/fast tweeters like plasma and ribbon tweeters. They sound terrific on their own, but because very few (if any) midranges can keep up with them, the sound of speakers using them tends not to be coherent. You can identify certain frequencies coming from one driver and not another. That's bad separation.

In a good way, separation is the ability to distinguish individual instruments and the like. No need to bash 100% of the guys post, just because 90% of it was wrong.

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Vintage Klipsch is the tits. Klipschorns and Lascalas are awesome. Big horns, compression drivers with giant magnets, big cabinets, sensitivities in the 105 db range. Known for insane dynamics. The new stuff uses smaller cabinets, smaller horns, smaller compression driver motors = they took away the only things klipsch had going for it. Now known for edgy, peaky, bright sound = which could work if you're having a dance party in your living room . . but not my first choice for music or tv.
Really good horns are something special. I agree, they are incredibly dynamic and incredibly fast. The Avante Garde's were something else in that regard.

No these aren't the ones my dad had, but they are the same speakers.

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A while back I decided to go with the Definitive Prosystem 1000 paired with a Yamaha HTR 5940(150 wtts)...it's....decent, probably need to upgrade the amp to get better sound. Any input?
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I'm in the process of building this exact system in pieces. So far I have the fronts and centers and I love the sound that they make. I hope to get the rears this year but I'm not overly sold on the subwoofer.

With Glock's recommendation on the Polk subwoofer, I might give that a try as it's substantiallly cheaper than the Klipsch one. The last thing I want to do is pay for a name over performance.
here is a pic of my klipsch woofer tucked away. its a 10", i believe, but it packs a big punch. the other speakers contribute to the bass, but its more than i need. a larger one wouldn't have fit where i wanted it.

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Old 03-03-2013, 11:29 PM   #125
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here is a pic of my klipsch woofer tucked away. its a 10", i believe, but it packs a big punch. the other speakers contribute to the bass, but its more than i need. a larger one wouldn't have fit where i wanted it.

pretty fierce.
Do you not get weird resonance with your front speakers in the entertainment center like that?
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:30 PM   #126
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Do you not get weird resonance with your front speakers in the entertainment center like that?
I was thinking about how it might sound weird considering how the horns would be way above the listeners head. But whatever.
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sounds great to me, but i'm not an expert or a sound snob. i'm very happy with how it performs. better sound than a movie theater.
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sounds great to me, but i'm not an expert or a sound snob. i'm very happy with how it performs. better sound than a movie theater.
and that's all that matters
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i've had it for a little over a year and i'm still blown away with how great it sounds. i'll admit that it does have influence on what types of movies i'm more likely to pick to watch. (action movies with the bangs and booms)
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