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Old 03-04-2013, 10:40 AM   #21
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Hey, I use Mobil 5w-30 all the way and never need to add any oil between change, my car is now 136k+ and I'm the OO, and I just had 2 round trips from S.F. to L.A for the last two consecutive weekends. It handles and drives super strong and smooth for a 14 yrs. auto tranny cars, and I treat it to the way that in and out it looks pretty much like a new car, I am very happy with it as the way it handles and the way it looks.
you're paying the same or even more as you would if you just used the proper oil

I know i know. you wanna be different. you wanna go against the grain. you want to prove people (and BMW, quite frankly) wrong. just use the proper stuff.

BMW oil =$7-8/qt

wrong mobil 1 oil $9.50+/qt

if you want to use mobil 1, use 0-40.

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Mobil 1 is not BMW spec. I would recommend you stick with the T6, or go with Castrol Euro
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:01 PM   #22
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you're paying the same or even more as you would if you just used the proper oil

I know i know. you wanna be different. you wanna go against the grain. you want to prove people (and BMW, quite frankly) wrong. just use the proper stuff.

BMW oil =$7-8/qt

wrong mobil 1 oil $9.50+/qt

if you want to use mobil 1, use 0-40.



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Costco always has 5-10 dollars instant rebate for 6 quarts. And often O'reiley has sale for 4.99- 5.99 per quart, but that is not the point for me to use M1 5w-30, just both me and and my engine like it regardless what you guys say, and few years ago I had a long long and hard debate for oil with some of you guys here and I don't want to waste time to go through the same debate again, use whatever you want to use and me too: use whatever I want to use.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:18 PM   #23
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Costco always has 5-10 dollars instant rebate for 6 quarts. And often O'reiley has sale for 4.99- 5.99 per quart, but that is not the point for me to use M1 5w-30, just both me and and my engine like it regardless what you guys say, and few years ago I had a long long and hard debate for oil with some of you guys here and I don't want to waste time to go through the same debate again, use whatever you want to use and me too: use whatever I want to use.
It might be OK for your car since it's an automatic 328 but for a manual car that's wound out more often and pushing more power, properly spec'd oil is especially a great idea.

I don't know what the requirement is for early 323/328 engines. i'm guessing synthetic with HP/ED requirements
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:02 PM   #24
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Hey, I use Mobil 5w-30 all the way and never need to add any oil between change, my car is now 136k+ and I'm the OO, and I just had 2 round trips from S.F. to L.A for the last two consecutive weekends. It handles and drives super strong and smooth for a 14 yrs. auto tranny cars, and I treat it to the way that in and out it looks pretty much like a new car, I am very happy with it as the way it handles and the way it looks.
M1 5W30 is about as far off spec as you can get in a 5W30. Why would you do that?
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:42 PM   #25
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M1 5W30 is about as far off spec as you can get in a 5W30. Why would you do that?
You're talking to a guy who self-admittedly "doesn't mind door dings."
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:02 PM   #26
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I don't know what the requirement is for early 323/328 engines. i'm guessing synthetic with HP/ED requirements
I recently got an early E46 328i and want to change the oil soon, what do you mean by HP/ED? I'm also in the UK so I'd like it if any UK owners chimed in!

My car has done 128K miles.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #27
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You're talking to a guy who self-admittedly "doesn't mind door dings."
Mango, stop your non sense, answer me, where did I self-admittedly "doesn't mind door dings."?
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:35 PM   #28
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I recently got an early E46 328i and want to change the oil soon, what do you mean by HP/ED? I'm also in the UK so I'd like it if any UK owners chimed in!

My car has done 128K miles.
High performance/extended drain. The chap below you is running an under-spec'd engine oil on purpose. BMW, Mercedes-Benz, VW, Audi all specify their engines must use ACEA A3/B3 engine oil which meets HP/ED requirements. In a nutshell, that's LL-01 for North America and LL-04 for the good ol United Kingdom. BMW has strict requirements for their engine oil and one of those requirements IIRC is to run near redline, under load, for something like two days straight. Someone posted a cool technical document the other day.

Anyway all that info is not necessary. People like to be special.. unique.. etc. and use their own oil because their engines "run good." It's funny how people ignore the manufacturer on the single most important thing vital to their cars--and they're proud of it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:39 PM   #29
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I'm still waiting for your answer Mr. Mango!
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Back on topic, please.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:53 PM   #31
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Mango, you made something up about me, and just try to get away like that, kind of villain to me, as a good educated person, you owe me an apology!

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Old 03-04-2013, 11:24 PM   #32
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BMW spec oils are chosen for their extended oil change intervals.
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Total bullshit! Stick to what you know, and it sure ain't oil!
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Total bullshit! Stick to what you know, and it sure ain't oil!
And I thought some of what I said was accurate if not all.

"The oils listed below meet BMW's Long-life rating and are acceptable for use in BMW Passenger vehicles and SAVs in the US market with gasoline engines.

BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market:


Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30

Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40

Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30

Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30"
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx

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...Please help.....Can someone please tell me what is the best oil that meets all the specs from bwm, I have a 06-330i zhp and just hit 101,000,please help
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The dealer carries BMW 5w-30 at a fair price normally.

At auto parts stores, try these two that are commonly available.

Mobil1 0w-40 or Castrol Syntec / Edge European formula 0w-30
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Jeez that oil is so thin it's like water. I use 10W-40 mobile1 fully synthetic, with a Mann filter every 6500 miles or so. My car has about 191,875 and runs better today than most 2012 model cars
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Mango not in all places are equal my dealership charge 11.89$ +tax per qt, i would like to know any cheaper solution in oil, and if i can put some a little more higher due to my millage.
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Mango not in all places are equal my dealership charge 11.89$ +tax per qt, i would like to know any cheaper solution in oil, and if i can put some a little more higher due to my millage.
Advance just ended a buy one, get one free on Castrol Syntech rated LL01. According to their website, Mobil One, Castrol Syntech and Pennzoil Synthetic are $8.99 each and Royal Purple is $9.59. Wallyworld has a 5qt Mobil 1 for $25.00 or so. Many good choices under $11.89 a quart.
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