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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 03-15-2013, 01:08 AM   #1
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A few problems with my 'o4 e46 m3 vert

Hi guys, thanks for your time. If you could give me some advice going forward that would be great.

Here's the break down: I just bought this car for $18k and it has every option on it and 73k miles. My brake light went off so I knew I would need to do a break rebuild soon, as there isn't much rotor left at this point for the fronts.

So I took it to a mechanic I really trust bc my power steering was loud and difficult to turn. Then he asked me if it's leaking oil and I said no because I park in the same spot of the garage every time and don't see any.

On an '04 with 74k miles, would it be reasonable to expect to have to change these parts: oil release valve needs to be replaced.($803, incl parts labor taxes), oil pan gasket $907, incl parts, labor and tax) vanos gasket leaking (288) power steering suction hose $179, serpentine belts ($244), driveshaft flex disc $493
Front brakes total rebuild $650.


Anyways, I really like this guy I just wanted to know your thoughst about this stuff. Maybe how long, if I even can, go without doing all of the fixes at once.
The oil news freaked me out, but I'm just going to another mechanic to get another opinion. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks again.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:17 AM   #2
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Hi guys, thanks for your time. If you could give me some advice going forward that would be great.

Here's the break down: I just bought this car for $18k and it has every option on it and 73k miles. My brake light went off so I knew I would need to do a break rebuild soon, as there isn't much rotor left at this point for the fronts.

So I took it to a mechanic I really trust bc my power steering was loud and difficult to turn. Then he asked me if it's leaking oil and I said no because I park in the same spot of the garage every time and don't see any.

On an '04 with 74k miles, would it be reasonable to expect to have to change these parts: oil release valve needs to be replaced.($803, incl parts labor taxes), oil pan gasket $907, incl parts, labor and tax) vanos gasket leaking (288) power steering suction hose $179, serpentine belts ($244), driveshaft flex disc $493
Front brakes total rebuild $650.


Anyways, I really like this guy I just wanted to know your thoughst about this stuff. Maybe how long, if I even can, go without doing all of the fixes at once.
The oil news freaked me out, but I'm just going to another mechanic to get another opinion. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks again.

Yes we'll within the realm of M3 possibilities. Lots you can do yourself though to save some cash.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:24 AM   #3
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I'm guessing that you didn't have a PPI done.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:37 AM   #4
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The brakes are something I think I can tackle. But the gaskets would probably be better left to a mechanic. I didn't have an inspection done, and my mechanic told me I didn't totally screw up bc I got it for a fair price. I was just surprised that I brought it in for what I thought would be $1,000 in fixes and turned out to be much more. Not that I didn't expect this car to be pricey to fix. Another thing that surprises me is that I see no oil on the ground. Could it be such a small leak that there wouldn't be any? Or could it just be leaking onto the frame/engine mount or something along those lines?
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:43 AM   #5
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On an '04 with 74k miles, would it be reasonable to expect to have to change these parts: oil release valve needs to be replaced.($803, incl parts labor taxes), oil pan gasket $907, incl parts, labor and tax) vanos gasket leaking (288) power steering suction hose $179, serpentine belts ($244), driveshaft flex disc $493
Front brakes total rebuild $650.
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The brakes are something I think I can tackle. But the gaskets would probably be better left to a mechanic.
If you can do brakes you can do virtually all these repairs. Lets break it down:

- CPV is the name for the oil release valve. All that needs to be fixed is a $0.25 o-ring which some members have bought in bulk and will send you one for ~$5. The reason it costs so much is cause the manual says the headers have to be removed to change it. There is a DIY to change it that requires a special tool ($10 from harbour freight) and some racket extensions to change it in about an hour.

- Get a second opinion on the oil pan gasket. Some garages have mistaken it for oil leaking from the CPV or Vanos.

- Which Vanos gasket is leaking? If its between Vanos and the solenoid, its super easy to replace. If its between Vanos and the head/block, then you're better off letting a mechanic change it. Spend extra and have them replace the cam bolts (they can come loose and sheer off, catastrophic engine failure ensues) and do a valve adjustment. Most of the labour to do those extras is already done by removing the valve cover and Vanos to change the Vanos gasket.

- The power steering hoses unfortunately leak, and the pump/rack makes awful noises when the fluid is low. They are super easy to replace yourself. Just unbolt/unclamp the line, let it drain, replace the line, refill and you're done. PS systems self bleed so there's no magic to replacing a PS hose.

- The flex disc (aka guibo) is more involved in that it requires removing a lot of parts (underbody panels, section of exhaust, heat shields, ...) yet ultimately its just 6 bolts and easy to replace.

- Belts at 9-10 years is perfectly reasonable. In fact all these repairs are "reasonable" for a nearly 10yo car. Some of them could have been prevented with better engineering, yet gaskets/hoses deteriorate as they age, leaks should be expected on any vehicle.

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Another thing that surprises me is that I see no oil on the ground. Could it be such a small leak that there wouldn't be any? Or could it just be leaking onto the frame/engine mount or something along those lines?
The CPV valve, Vanos gasket, and PS hoses are all small leaks that tend to get caught by the underbody panels.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:20 PM   #6
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The joys of owning this car (for less than a month) have been:
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2. Dreaming about upgrades/planning maintenance.
3. This website and all it helps you to learn about the car to do both.

I truly appreciate it guys. I've always considered myself a car nut but I am starting to see the difference in being a fanatic.

If anyone else has more to add please feel free.
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