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Old 03-15-2013, 12:26 PM   #21
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you would think truck drivers would be concerned with car driver safety, but they go out of their way to cut off people who jump the line when merging. idiots.
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Well, this confirms my thoughts of what happens when you crash into the back of a truck with a large rear overhang.
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Well, this confirms my thoughts of what happens when you crash into the back of a truck with a large rear overhang.
Happens with lifted SUV's and pickups too.

Which makes me wonder... had it been the back of a lifted pickup instead, would the pickup driver be vulnerable to litigation because they modified their vehicle outside it's original specifications
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Happens with lifted SUV's and pickups too.

Which makes me wonder... had it been the back of a lifted pickup instead, would the pickup driver be vulnerable to litigation because they modified their vehicle outside it's original specifications
At least in California, there is a law for maximum frame height, but it's pretty lax. Most of the larger trucks that are normally lifted are allowed to have a frame height of 30".
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you would think truck drivers would be concerned with car driver safety, but they go out of their way to cut off people who jump the line when merging. idiots.
Let me know when you drive a tractor trailer. The way cars drive sometimes is just as infuriating. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to cut someone off with a GVW of 80k lbs? These things aren't exactly go karts.

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Let me know when you drive a tractor trailer. The way cars drive sometimes is just as infuriating. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to cut someone off with a GVW of 80k lbs? These things aren't exactly go karts.

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Let me know when you drive a tractor trailer. The way cars drive sometimes is just as infuriating. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to cut someone off with a GVW of 80k lbs? These things aren't exactly go karts.

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so, it's safer for truck drivers to shove themselves in front of cars driving up a merge lane than to stop from 5-10mph to zero if one of these late megers decides to go in front of him? I think that's a ridiculous argument. There is little to no chance of the truck rear-ending someone at slow, rush hour speed (which is the scenario I'm referring to) but there is a much higher chance that some idiot line jumper in the merge lane will plow into the back of your truck as he's going a lot faster than 5-10mph.

I'm not saying it's easy to drive a rig, I respect the profession because I love getting my products and produce on time every day. And apologies for any offense by using a general term of "idiots" without specifying that I only believe one aspect of their decision-making to be idiotic.

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so, it's safer for truck drivers to shove themselves in front of cars driving up a merge lane than to stop from 5-10mph to zero if one of these late megers decides to go in front of him? I think that's a ridiculous argument. There is little to no chance of the truck rear-ending someone at slow, rush hour speed (which is the scenario I'm referring to) but there is a much higher chance that some idiot line jumper in the merge lane will plow into the back of your truck as he's going a lot faster than 5-10mph.

I'm not saying it's easy to drive a rig, I respect the profession because I love getting my products and produce on time every day. And apologies for any offense by using a general term of "idiots" without specifying that I only believe one aspect of their decision-making to be idiotic.

I hope that clarifies.
It did clarify, but I don't think you're getting the bigger picture. It's hard to shove something that's 53 ft long anywhere. Next time you're in a rush hour scenario, especially when one interstate merges into another, take a glance at the right lane and watch the merging skills of a 4 wheeler. They don't exist. The rush hour crowd, at least on the highways I frequent, are not concerned with merging but are rather focused on their phones, newspaper, putting on makeup etc. Hell most of the time they don't even wait until the lanes actually merge. They jump out into oncoming traffic at the hash marks. An experienced driver knows this is going to happen so they back off a little bit and increase their following distance, but at the same time another driver's safety isn't my problem. That's on them. If you want to risk being on the receiving end of a Peterbilt enema, be my guest.

A lot of variables to consider as well. Weight of load, road conditions, wet brakes, etc.

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It did clarify, but I don't think you're getting the bigger picture. It's hard to shove something that's 53 ft long anywhere. Next time you're in a rush hour scenario, especially when one interstate merges into another, take a glance at the right lane and watch the merging skills of a 4 wheeler. They don't exist. The rush hour crowd, at least on the highways I frequent, are not concerned with merging but are rather focused on their phones, newspaper, putting on makeup etc. Hell most of the time they don't even wait until the lanes actually merge. They jump out into oncoming traffic at the hash marks. An experienced driver knows this is going to happen so they back off a little bit and increase their following distance, but at the same time another driver's safety isn't my problem. That's on them. If you want to risk being on the receiving end of a Peterbilt enema, be my guest.

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U missed my point. I'm talking abt truck drivers who go out of their way to c*ck block people that use the merging lane to get ahead of traffic till the last second. To ur point of drivers that lack attention while driving, in my scenario, that is even more dangerous for the trucker to block people because lack of attention equals accident. That accident could have been avoided if the trucker just stayed within his lane, as there was no need to change lanes and furthermore, they make this move without any signaling, making it further dangerous and illegal.
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U missed my point. I'm talking abt truck drivers who go out of their way to c*ck block people that use the merging lane to get ahead of traffic till the last second. To ur point of drivers that lack attention while driving, in my scenario, that is even more dangerous for the trucker to block people because lack of attention equals accident. That accident could have been avoided if the trucker just stayed within his lane, as there was no need to change lanes and furthermore, they make this move without any signaling, making it further dangerous and illegal.
Ok so on one hand truckers should be concerned with other people's safety but on the other hand they shouldn't block cars from flooring it in the merge lane so they can jump into traffic at the last second. Makes no sense. Again, the situation dictates reaction. Yes I'll block a merging lane to maintain a slower speed during a snowstorm but only if it's safe to do so. Like I said before, operate a vehicle that weighs 80k during rush hour and tell me how easy it is.

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Happens with lifted SUV's and pickups too.

Which makes me wonder... had it been the back of a lifted pickup instead, would the pickup driver be vulnerable to litigation because they modified their vehicle outside it's original specifications
Maybe. I've wondered about this stuff for ages actually. The standards are wayy too lax at the moment as far as bumper standards relating to height and structural stability. The rule used to be that all vehicles had to have a bumper that was the same height as the others, so in collisions, you could prevent this sort of thing. But nobody seems to have enforced it over the years and as trucks and SUVs have gotten bigger and more popular, motorists in sedans and regular sized cars have become quite vulnerable. It used to be that when you were in a really small car you worried about it; now, I get worried driving around in my 3 series. These huge trucks will just run right over the top of your car these days.

I think there probably should be uniform height standards for bumpers. I've got no objection at all about how high a truck can be lifted, as long as its bumper is at the same level as all other vehicles. That way, if someone hits the big truck, or if the big truck hits someone else, the person in the smaller vehicle stands a chance.
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A big rig doesn't just jump out and stop in front of you.
Clearly you've never driven in Cali.
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Clearly you've never driven in Cali.
or in Ontario or Quebec or New York or Pennsylvania or Maryland or Virginia...or anywhere truckers happen to drive.
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Ok so on one hand truckers should be concerned with other people's safety but on the other hand they shouldn't block cars from flooring it in the merge lane so they can jump into traffic at the last second. Makes no sense.
lol how does that not make sense?! concern for safety is consistent with not jumping out in front of cars out of some stupid "i'll teach him a lesson" attitude. no turn signalling and fully using the element of surprise? you find that behavior legal? and people aren't flooring it that I've seen.

and your comment regarding snowstorms...get real, this happens every day in normal dry, sunny conditions, from truckers that have a chip on their shoulder. most are patient, careful drivers and I applaud them for their patience, but you always (every day I drive to work and home) see one or two pulling this stunt.
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lol how does that not make sense?! concern for safety is consistent with not jumping out in front of cars out of some stupid "i'll teach him a lesson" attitude. no turn signalling and fully using the element of surprise? you find that behavior legal? and people aren't flooring it that I've seen.

and your comment regarding snowstorms...get real, this happens every day in normal dry, sunny conditions, from truckers that have a chip on their shoulder. most are patient, careful drivers and I applaud them for their patience, but you always (every day I drive to work and home) see one or two pulling this stunt.
Indeed. Cars pull the same sh!t. Moot point?

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of course not...a very relevant point. you might have missed a thread where a bunch of your colleagues here (I mean fellow BMW enthusiasts that like to pull this stunt, not truckers that I know of) applauded the same vengeful behavior. and they all received my same reaction.
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so, it's safer for truck drivers to shove themselves in front of cars driving up a merge lane than to stop from 5-10mph to zero if one of these late megers decides to go in front of him? I think that's a ridiculous argument. There is little to no chance of the truck rear-ending someone at slow, rush hour speed (which is the scenario I'm referring to) but there is a much higher chance that some idiot line jumper in the merge lane will plow into the back of your truck as he's going a lot faster than 5-10mph.

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