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Old 03-18-2013, 01:07 PM   #261
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because its the typical bro calculator, high protein/carbs minimal fat. Chicken & Rice etc.
so then what should my macros be at?
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what other kind of meat is cheap? Just eat more chicken?
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:24 PM   #263
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yeah you can't really enjoy the good cuts of meat if you are on a budget, so looks like boneless skinless chicken breast is your friend. Buy it frozen in bulk and defrost in fridge ~24 hours before you cook it and you'll save $$$

solly suggested pork, not a bad alternative as well.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:33 PM   #264
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kk, but can you give me numbers on what my macros should be if i'm 193 and want to cut a bit? I have a 5 pack and want a 6 pack lol. You can start to see my 5th one coming in
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:45 PM   #265
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so then what should my macros be at?
all the info you need is in this thread already.

you can see gains using that calculator for sure, all that matters is you are getting enough protein everyday, and enough carbs that you feel energetic during your weightlifting. The rest is really just personal choice without getting too detailed.

It's essentially trying to balance an budget at the end of the day if you think about it...

You have say a $2000 dollar (calories) "budget" for the day, and you are going grocery shopping. Your girlfriend made you promise you'd bring home at least 193grams of protein, and then whatever $'s are left is up to you.

Fat is the most expensive and least beneficial @ $9 a gram, carbs are $4 a gram and provide fuel for your workouts. Protein is also $4 a gram.

So if you get 193g of protein, thats $772. Leaving roughly $1200. Spend accordingly, prioritizing carbs for workout fuel.

I'm clearly bored of discussing calories and macros lol so hopefully that example made sense
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dabears, about the pb&j sandwiches:
1. i thought soy was a complete protein?
2. i'm aware that pb is incomplete, but i thought that the similarly incomplete proteins contributed by typical wheat breads makes the overall meal a complete protein. am i wrong?
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dabears, about the pb&j sandwiches:
1. i thought soy was a complete protein?
2. i'm aware that pb is incomplete, but i thought that the similarly incomplete proteins contributed by typical wheat breads makes the overall meal a complete protein. am i wrong?
1) soy is a complete protein if you just look at the amino acids (it supplies all 9) but they are in less than ideal ratios, and whats more concerning is the effect of its "antinutrients" on protein uptake, estrogen levels in the body, etc.

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the soybean contains large quantities of natural toxins or "antinutrients". First among them are potent enzyme inhibitors that block the action of trypsin and other enzymes needed for protein digestion.

These inhibitors are large, tightly folded proteins that are not completely deactivated during ordinary cooking. They can produce serious gastric distress, reduced protein digestion and chronic deficiencies in amino acid uptake. In test animals, diets high in trypsin inhibitors cause enlargement and pathological conditions of the pancreas, including cancer.14

Soybeans also contain haemagglutinin, a clot-promoting substance that causes red blood cells to clump together.

Trypsin inhibitors and haemagglutinin are growth inhibitors. Weanling rats fed soy containing these antinutrients fail to grow normally.
so the nutrition label says protein, but your body doesn't absorb it effectively / cause of a host of other issues.

2) I won't get into the health complications, but from a straight muscle building role yes pb + gluten = complete amino acid profile. But the macronutrient ratio of this concoction isn't proper... similar to bacon, the fat content far outweighs the protein content. So by him eating two of them, he's unable to get an adequate protein intake without going over his calories. Which is not good on a cut.
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yeah you can't really enjoy the good cuts of meat if you are on a budget, so looks like boneless skinless chicken breast is your friend. Buy it frozen in bulk and defrost in fridge ~24 hours before you cook it and you'll save $$$

solly suggested pork, not a bad alternative as well.

Can he get grass fed frozen in bulk? What kind of grass fed should he get? Blue grass? Tall fescue? St. Augustine? I just want to make sure that he's getting the best grass fed available.
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Lol I meant beef / unfrozen chicken in general, I never tell anyone to eat grass fed. I'm sure you can imagine their reaction
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here's my grocery list for two weeks. same thing pretty much every day but it doesn't bother me





2 Week

4 x Giant 100% Egg Whites Liquid Cholesterol Free Fat Free $17.96

1 x Giant White Rice Long Grain $4.79

2 x Giant Chicken Breasts Boneless Skinless Value Pack All Natural Fresh $34.32

2 x Giant Pasta Rigatoni $2

1 x Ragu Pasta Sauce $2.39

1 x Giant Oats Rolled Old Fashion $3.79

2 x Oscar Meyer Turkey White Oven Roasted 95% Fat Free Sliced $6.98

2 x Giant Vegetables Mixed All Natural $5

Total: $77.23
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #271
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Oh and that's all from peapod. It's what i'm using now that my ex gf isn't around anymore.
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