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Old 03-23-2013, 01:31 AM   #41
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:05 AM   #42
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Not defending either side just making one simple point.

The competition will only improve the platform. Feelings are secondary to platform development.

Keep it coming Saad, maxpsi and NickG.

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This is a very true statement, unfortunately not everyone understands this.
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:50 PM   #43
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It ain't braggin if its true. Lets do this, why don't you go and find me someone that will race me for money in a 6 speed Supra. Anyone, as long as the car is full weight and has the factory 6 speed and 2jz in it. Fair? 5k? Since I'm not number one, as you say, you should be able to go to all those guys that are quicker then me and tell them to come and take my money, right?
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:55 PM   #44
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Has HPF given up on trying to be the top dog on the e46 chassis? They should be contenders here as well, ever since MaxPSI and SAAD dropped their kit on us HPF has been silent. They pretty much single handedly put this platform on the market in the US.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #45
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For what? Last time I was there for the TX2K race, I won the 6 speed class and almost won unlimited.

Your going to have to do better then a vague statement. If you think there is someone that is quicker then me in a 6 speed Supra, find them and set up a $5k race, should be easy if its as you say that there are others faster then me
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:08 PM   #46
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Amazing only thing that would make it better is if you kept the quad exhaust look for the tips. None the less amazing work.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:36 PM   #47
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Amazing only thing that would make it better is if you kept the quad exhaust look for the tips. None the less amazing work.
Thank you! I'll have to take better pictures of the 4" oval tips, the fit great in the stock bumper.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:41 PM   #48
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Thank you! I'll have to take better pictures of the 4" oval tips, the fit great in the stock bumper.
This is true. I have oval also. however yours need a rolled tip. Or whatever its called

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Old 03-23-2013, 10:04 PM   #49
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Here is a short video of the back of the car when we were on the dyno. Gives you a good sound clip and a better look at the tips.

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saad - there are several of us here who have been tweaking the e46 m3 turbo before you did. kenton's exhaust has changed several times. i doubt you even knew or cared what diameter the plumbing is from the steedspeed out. which is why its confusing why you would make such a statement.
if you want THIS community to take your product development seriously please reciprocate. btw, ever wonder why every scandanavian e46 m3 turbo has a certain debadged manifold? every turbo kit has its pros and cons.

mkampa - thanks for the oxymoronic meme

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Old 03-25-2013, 10:57 AM   #51
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saad - there are several of us here who have been tweaking the e46 m3 turbo before you did. kenton's exhaust has changed several times. i doubt you even knew or cared what diameter the plumbing is from the steedspeed out. which is why its confusing why you would make such a statement.
if you want THIS community to take your product development seriously please reciprocate. btw, ever wonder why every scandanavian e46 m3 turbo has a certain debadged manifold? every turbo kit has its pros and cons.

mkampa - thanks for the oxymoronic meme
This is the common mistake everyone in this industry seems to make. Thinking that one platform is different than the other. Any good experienced shop, and tuner can make any car fast. Here is a great example, several years ago a certain company decided to enter the sport compact front wheel drive market in drag racing. Everyone said they were going to get their a$$es handed to them because they had now idea how to run a high horsepower turbo car, let alone a front wheel drive car. That company absolutely DOMINATED the FWD market while they were involved, and then left. Anyone guess who that was???

Point is, I don't care if you good at making a ford focus fast...if your truly good at it, you can make anything fast.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:22 PM   #52
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saad - there are several of us here who have been tweaking the e46 m3 turbo before you did. kenton's exhaust has changed several times. i doubt you even knew or cared what diameter the plumbing is from the steedspeed out. which is why its confusing why you would make such a statement.
if you want THIS community to take your product development seriously please reciprocate. btw, ever wonder why every scandanavian e46 m3 turbo has a certain debadged manifold? every turbo kit has its pros and cons.

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The statement I made was using math and logic. Now you come back and make a vague statement that I don't know what he has for exhaust. Let me say it again another way. It does not matter if he had a 5" exhaust because its still 3" coming out of the turbo, that is where the restriction is, and the fact that you just said he has a Steedspeed manifold reaffirms that there is a restriction before the turbo also. This isn't just my opinion, is physics.

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Old 03-25-2013, 01:35 PM   #53
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This is the common mistake everyone in this industry seems to make. Thinking that one platform is different than the other. Any good experienced shop, and tuner can make any car fast. Here is a great example, several years ago a certain company decided to enter the sport compact front wheel drive market in drag racing. Everyone said they were going to get their a$$es handed to them because they had now idea how to run a high horsepower turbo car, let alone a front wheel drive car. That company absolutely DOMINATED the FWD market while they were involved, and then left. Anyone guess who that was???

Point is, I don't care if you good at making a ford focus fast...if your truly good at it, you can make anything fast.
You are absolutely correct. I run into this all the time, its very frustrating. I have been talking to people about cars and they tell me what problems they are having, and I tell them what they need. They ask me how I know, I tell them I've built cars like our 1800hp 3.0L Supra and then I hear "but this is a Corvette". My answer is "ya, that makes it easier"
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You are absolutely correct. I run into this all the time, its very frustrating. I have been talking to people about cars and they tell me what problems they are having, and I tell them what they need. They ask me how I know, I tell them I've built cars like our 1800hp 3.0L Supra and then I hear "but this is a Corvette". My answer is "ya, that makes it easier"
Yeah...All of the Honda guys thought GM was going to come in and look like fools! That didn't work out too well for them! LOL
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If I understand you correctly you have the factory connection in the middle of the car. If that is the case this exhaust, the way I have shown it, will bolt right up to your car. As far as retuning, what did you do when you went back to the smaller down pipe, did you re tune it? If not you should be good, but always check after making any modification.
Yes, it was retuned by HPF/John Reed after the smaller DP and new exhaust was put in. Also, can quad tips be installed instead of the oval tips on your exhaust? Are the oval tips welded on or are they just attached with exhuast clamps?
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Yes, it was retuned by HPF/John Reed after the smaller DP and new exhaust was put in. Also, can quad tips be installed instead of the oval tips on your exhaust? Are the oval tips welded on or are they just attached with exhuast clamps?
We are developing 2 more options for tips. Quad 3" tips and straight 4" tips cut at an angle. Should have pictures of them shortly. The tips are v-banded.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:38 PM   #57
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This is the common mistake everyone in this industry seems to make. Thinking that one platform is different than the other. Any good experienced shop, and tuner can make any car fast. Here is a great example, several years ago a certain company decided to enter the sport compact front wheel drive market in drag racing. Everyone said they were going to get their a$$es handed to them because they had now idea how to run a high horsepower turbo car, let alone a front wheel drive car. That company absolutely DOMINATED the FWD market while they were involved, and then left. Anyone guess who that was???

Point is, I don't care if you good at making a ford focus fast...if your truly good at it, you can make anything fast.
this is true...but for how long?
example: if a cometic MLS works to high heaven on a 2jz does not mean you can expect the same RELIABLE results on an s54
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:53 PM   #58
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this is true...but for how long?
example: if a cometic MLS works to high heaven on a 2jz does not mean you can expect the same RELIABLE results on an s54
Can't be true Ben...what works for one platform will work for the other. Must've been installer error
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:51 AM   #59
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this is true...but for how long?
example: if a cometic MLS works to high heaven on a 2jz does not mean you can expect the same RELIABLE results on an s54
Terrible example, what he meant is that an experienced shop will find its way in any platform that it concentrates on, not that all parts will work on the same platforms. Also, top Supras DO NOT USE cometic head gaskets they use stock, ask me how I know
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