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Old 03-30-2013, 07:54 PM   #81
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Another thing to keep in mind though is that the compression test was done cold, the car had been sitting in below zero temps for 3 days...

I'm renting a mini camera and doing some searching around.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:04 PM   #82
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Another thing to keep in mind though is that the compression test was done cold, the car had been sitting in below zero temps for 3 days...

I'm renting a mini camera and doing some searching around.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:11 PM   #83
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How would it run with those numbers?
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:19 PM   #84
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Another thing to keep in mind though is that the compression test was done cold, the car had been sitting in below zero temps for 3 days...

I'm renting a mini camera and doing some searching around.
Temps are not going to change the low numbers. The good cylinders may improve a bit at full operating temp, but the bad ones are bad because the valves are no longer sealing the combustion chamber.

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Old 03-30-2013, 08:21 PM   #85
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Temps are not going to change the low numbers. The good cylinders may improve a bit at full operating temp, but the bad ones are bad because the valves are no longer sealing the combustion chamber.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:42 PM   #86
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How would it run with those numbers?
Oddly enough, it starts right up like normal, just a misfire, no odd noises, it moves under its own power.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:57 PM   #87
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So it costs like $475 to rent the damn tools to install the head. You get some of it back upon returning the tools. I'm seriously going to have $4,000 invested in matinence over the first 600 miles I've owned this thing.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:26 PM   #88
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So it costs like $475 to rent the damn tools to install the head. You get some of it back upon returning the tools. I'm seriously going to have $4,000 invested in matinence over the first 600 miles I've owned this thing.
475?! How much of that is a deposit?! I just bought the whole set of tools used of CL for 80 dollars. I lucked out, but I know you can even buy the personal set from German auto solutions for 100. 200 for the real set. WAY better than throwing money out the window renting.

http://www.germanautosolutions.com/b..._bmw_tools.php
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:10 PM   #89
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Oddly enough, it starts right up like normal, just a misfire, no odd noises, it moves under its own power.

BMW --> Breaks My Wallet. :-(


Sorry to hear of your issue. As a 330CI manual owner, the "moneyshift" is the bogeyman that I worry about too.


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Old 04-01-2013, 07:10 AM   #90
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It takes all the fun out of owning this car. It really does. For petes sake, I wasn't even racing it, and have driven manuals my entire life and never missed a gear, except 3rd a few times in the old Camaro, but that was a syncro problem

It suprises me that BMW did nothing about this, despite the fact that it was happening so freuently within the first years of production. All they did is put a "black box" in the car to record this fault, so that the owner would have to cough up $15,000 for a new engine. And, why is it always a missed 4th, got 2nd? That should not be easy to do.

I do take responsibility for making this error, too, but I was just out for a Sunday drive when it happened. This has been an issue since the E36, time for BMW to start changing to gated shifters, or making modifications to the very tight shift pattern.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:21 AM   #91
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I often drive my buddies e36 M3 with a total slop box. At first I was finding 5th instead of 3rd. I got used to it very quickly and never miss a gear. I don't understand how people do this so often. A Sunday drive with some extremely rough shifting maybe...
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:30 AM   #92
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Never heard that. It is so obvious. I guess I'm a virgin . . . or something.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:06 PM   #93
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It takes all the fun out of owning this car. It really does. For petes sake, I wasn't even racing it, and have driven manuals my entire life and never missed a gear, except 3rd a few times in the old Camaro, but that was a syncro problem

It suprises me that BMW did nothing about this, despite the fact that it was happening so freuently within the first years of production. All they did is put a "black box" in the car to record this fault, so that the owner would have to cough up $15,000 for a new engine. And, why is it always a missed 4th, got 2nd? That should not be easy to do.

I do take responsibility for making this error, too, but I was just out for a Sunday drive when it happened. This has been an issue since the E36, time for BMW to start changing to gated shifters, or making modifications to the very tight shift pattern.
bmw makes a driving machine. They use fluid filled mounts becuase it makes it more pleasant to drive. Unfortunately when those mounts fail (usually after the warrentee expires I assume) things get sloppy fast. Maybe Mango will make us a thread identifying all fluid filled rubber parts - and how to replace them.

A missed shift is driver error. I'm glad you are taking responsibility for your error. Sounds like you were passing and hit wrong gear. bummer. It could be you made a mistake, or, it could be a fluid filled rubber mount gave away at the wrong time (I assume they usually give out due a combination of age, and hard use) When they dump their fluid - they quickly change from good to crap. In a 10 year old car you have to assume rubber is getting old - and drive accordingly - unless you have replaced it all. Fluid filled rubber is both the best and worse - works great when new - fails more suddenly. Is more expensive to replace. That is why a 10 year old bmw is so cheap for what you get - you have to expect expensive parts to fail - or to replace them all
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You think BMW should comp you a new engine because you money shifted your ten year old 3 series? What planet do you live on
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:21 PM   #95
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You think BMW should comp you a new engine because you money shifted your ten year old 3 series? What planet do you live on
Heck no, I'm admitting driver error on my part.

But I'm just saying, I've driven manual cars and trucks for 6 years, NEVER missed 4th... I will never drive my car the same after this. I hate to say this, but its really going to take the fun factor out of driving, given how heavily I will have to consider every gear change.

I'm driving around an old Mazda Protege right now and coming home to a lifeless BMW that I just paid $11k for a month ago sitting in the corner of my driveway... It sucks, big time. That car is my baby, and this experience will cost me $2,500, a few grey hairs, and financial strain. I had literely just bought this car. And I still have to put a new fp, wp, idler pulley, and clutch, change the fluids, this car is running me $4,000 in it's first 16 days of being mine.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:38 PM   #96
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Never heard that. It is so obvious. I guess I'm a virgin . . . or something.
Here's one...

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Old 04-03-2013, 08:10 AM   #97
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Alright guys, got a borescope from work, already got the coverd and filters removed, coil packs popped up, about ready to start searching... I'm hoping to not find anything too major with the pistons.

I've got a used head lined up, pressure tested good, so hopefully I will be good to go after I get it redecked so its perfectly flat. I'm going to do A LOT of the work do my mechanic doesn't have to, removing all the easier things, etc.

I'm just praying that the bottom end is okay :/ will have updates later today!
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:21 AM   #98
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I sacrificed a goat to ensure that your bottom end is OK. You've had enough pain.........for now.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:32 AM   #99
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Lol well it died for a very nice E46 ha. I've endured endless pain since it happened. So has my car
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:19 PM   #100
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Update,

I pulled all the plugs and boots, all the plugs are well used and in need of replacement, but, on cylinder 1, there is oil on the plug, and splattered on the boot, as well as oil residue in the chamber. I believe that cylinder only had 20 psi. Could this indicate a damaged piston, or is it consistant of a badly bent valve, or several on the cylinder?

The camera is too big, I need a smaller one. So for now, I can't do much more.
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