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Old 04-16-2013, 08:27 PM   #41
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:29 PM   #42
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Now imagine this call....

911, what is your emergency?

"Yes, there are two black guys across the street from my house and they look like they are up to no good."

"Sir, what are they doing"

"Sitting on the stoop talking, but their pants are baggy and they have that rope looking hair, and they look scary."

Then cops show up, and arrest them for not breaking any laws.

Does that sit right with you? What if the caller had a real fear of black men? Justified?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:35 PM   #43
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Lol I wish I could call animal control and be like " yea my neighbors dog looks like it's about to bark "

Edit: Isn't this how everyone walks around in texas?

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:41 PM   #44
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Lol I wish I could call animal control and be like " yea my neighbors dog looks like it's about to bark "

Edit: Isn't this how everyone walks around in texas?
Exactly. It's a matter of context. In NYC or maybe LA, someone with a gun or a rifle would immediately be "out of place." However, in a state like Texas? Hell, they proudly state that "everyone in texas has a gun." It's nothing unusual.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:58 PM   #45
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Yea, being from NY, the first thing I noticed when I walked into a waffle house was the "no concealed weapons" sign with a gun with an X over it, like a no smoking sign. Me and my family were cracking up at it. They didn't find it as funny.

If he was black, gay, handicapped, woman, or all of the above they probably would have treated him with respect because this would go down as a hate crime on anyone other than a white male. That's right, I said it!
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #46
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Looked like an AR-15 to me. Could be wrong, but yea watch the video. They were called there by a citizen.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #47
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bottom line is the country is split on this, just like abortion/death penalty/etc.

half the country fears guns, half clings to their rights. ( and it it likely not exactly half, u know what i mean)

i think most of the fear of guns is lack of knowledge/education.

edit: also saw he was walking with the rifle across his chest on a hiking trail, not down main st.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:19 PM   #48
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Well excuuuuse me. I shot M-16s in the military. The only difference between those and an AR is the 3 round burst on M16. Right? So, technically it's not an assault rifle, yes. How easy is it to mess with the trigger mechanism and make it full auto though? Serious question.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:24 PM   #49
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I wouldn't necessarily feel safer with someone carrying a rifle strapped to their back/slung over their shoulder, but I wouldn't feel any less safe either.

People overreact, that includes LEOs as well.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:28 PM   #50
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Hell, just get the bump fire stock instead of messing with the trigger. I think the LE will be found at fault here, many states have open carry laws, which is what this guy was doing. Legally, he can walk down the street with a rifle strapped. And of course, citizens will call in and complain, so the LE shows up. But since he has done nothing wrong, he doesn't even have to show his ID, if he wanted to be a prick.
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A father and son looking for trouble? Really? More people need to do it so the 99.82% of legal gun owners can show that legal gun owners are the majority and that what the news reports is not law abiding citizens.

If I saw someone carrying an open weapon I would think I am more protected than not seeing one.
Yeah. I've seen a couple of these vids where some NRA enthusiast decides to put the law to the test and openly (and possibly legally) carry a gun out in the middle of the day while they are just walking around for no reason other than to videotape their encounter with the cops so they can strut their knowledge of the law.

If you feel safer with people carrying guns around you at a starbucks, lol. Enjoy. The rest of the world does not agree with you. If I see grandpa Joe ordering a latte with a rifle strapped on him, even if he looks totally harmless, I am GTFO of there. The problem is you have no idea who they are, or why they have a gun. You don't know if they are there just walking with a gun, or are there to shoot up the mall.

And before you argue something absurd like I hate guns, nothing could be further from the truth. I support the right to own and carry weapons for one thing only: SELF DEFENSE. I even support concealed carry if the person is put through a rigorous test/check.

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No assault rifle was carried and no law was broken

Inform me again WHY the cops where even there to begin with?
People called in a person walking with a gun.

Look, this is TX apparently where it is legal to openly carry. If people there are calling this in, you better believe it is some weird assed ****. It is not normal to walk around in public with a rifle. PERIOD.

I feel bad for his kid.

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People called in a person walking with a gun.

Look, this is TX apparently where it is legal to openly carry. If people there are calling this in, you better believe it is some weird assed ****. It is not normal to walk around in public with a rifle. PERIOD.

I feel bad for his kid.
It's not normal to exercise a right? It also happens to be legal to open carry a rifle in TX
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Yeah. I've seen a couple of these vids where some NRA enthusiast decides to put the law to the test and openly (and possibly legally) carry a gun out in the middle of the day while they are just walking around for no reason other than to videotape their encounter with the cops so they can strut their knowledge of the law.

If you feel safer with people carrying guns around you at a starbucks, lol. Enjoy. The rest of the world does not agree with you. If I see grandpa Joe ordering a latte with a rifle strapped on him, even if he looks totally harmless, I am GTFO of there. The problem is you have no idea who they are, or why they have a gun. You don't know if they are there just walking with a gun, or are there to shoot up the mall.

And before you argue something absurd like I hate guns, nothing could be further from the truth. I support the right to own and carry weapons for one thing only: SELF DEFENSE. I even support concealed carry if the person is put through a rigorous test/check.



People called in a person walking with a gun.

Look, this is TX apparently where it is legal to openly carry. If people there are calling this in, you better believe it is some weird assed ****. It is not normal to walk around in public with a rifle. PERIOD.

I feel bad for his kid.
Absolutely all of this.

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It's not normal to exercise a right? It also happens to be legal to open carry a rifle in TX
Rights are conditional. Just look at the 1st amendment.
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i think most of the fear of guns is lack of knowledge/education.
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Absolutely all of this.



Rights are conditional. Just look at the 1st amendment.
I never said they aren't conditional.

States can infringe on your rights under "strict scrutiny". And that strict scrutiny has been abused by most states that is beyond excessive.

Given the circumstances here, and the laws in TX, there were no laws violated in this video.
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Yea, being from NY, the first thing I noticed when I walked into a waffle house was the "no concealed weapons" sign with a gun with an X over it, like a no smoking sign. Me and my family were cracking up at it. They didn't find it as funny.

If he was black, gay, handicapped, woman, or all of the above they probably would have treated him with respect because this would go down as a hate crime on anyone other than a white male. That's right, I said it!
I can pull up plenty of stories of black, gay, handicapped, women, being shot or being roughed up by the hands of the police. If he was black, they probably would have shot first and asked questions later.
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Well excuuuuse me. I shot M-16s in the military. The only difference between those and an AR is the 3 round burst on M16. Right? So, technically it's not an assault rifle, yes. How easy is it to mess with the trigger mechanism and make it full auto though? Serious question.
so if it is not an assault rifle, please, do us all a favor and do not call it one. ignorance breeds ignorance.

the difference between your modern sporting rifle and an assault rifle is the select fire capability of the assault rifles. operationally, a semi-automatic ar-15 is no different than any other semi-automatic sporting/hunting rifles. both semi-auto and full auto rifles are legal to own in texas(following proper nfa guidelines)

as far as how easy it is to make a semi auto rifle full auto? not exactly sure.. i would imagine its a matter of swapping out some parts in the recievers. however, it is unlawful to do such a thing, so im not sure what exactly it has to do with the legality of owning a semi-auto ar. its like asking how easy it is to turn household appliances into bombs.
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Well excuuuuse me. I shot M-16s in the military. The only difference between those and an AR is the 3 round burst on M16. Right? So, technically it's not an assault rifle, yes. How easy is it to mess with the trigger mechanism and make it full auto though? Serious question.
It's illegal. If I didn't care about the law, I'd just buy an AK.
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so if it is not an assault rifle, please, do us all a favor and do not call it one. ignorance breeds ignorance.

the difference between your modern sporting rifle and an assault rifle is the select fire capability of the assault rifles. operationally, a semi-automatic ar-15 is no different than any other semi-automatic sporting/hunting rifles. both semi-auto and full auto rifles are legal to own in texas(following proper nfa guidelines)

as far as how easy it is to make a semi auto rifle full auto? not exactly sure.. i would imagine its a matter of swapping out some parts in the recievers. however, it is unlawful to do such a thing, so im not sure what exactly it has to do with the legality of owning a semi-auto ar. its like asking how easy it is to turn household appliances into bombs.
I'm guessing you didn't ace the analogy part of the SAT.
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Yeah. I've seen a couple of these vids where some NRA enthusiast decides to put the law to the test and openly (and possibly legally) carry a gun out in the middle of the day while they are just walking around for no reason other than to videotape their encounter with the cops so they can strut their knowledge of the law.

If you feel safer with people carrying guns around you at a starbucks, lol. Enjoy. The rest of the world does not agree with you. If I see grandpa Joe ordering a latte with a rifle strapped on him, even if he looks totally harmless, I am GTFO of there. The problem is you have no idea who they are, or why they have a gun. You don't know if they are there just walking with a gun, or are there to shoot up the mall.

Thats your right. You don't like guns? GTFO of there and go home where you have a guarantee of environment control.

And before you argue something absurd like I hate guns, nothing could be further from the truth. I support the right to own and carry weapons for one thing only: SELF DEFENSE. I even support concealed carry if the person is put through a rigorous test/check.

Typical....we should control xyz but I support guns. How do you know that the grampa Joe at starbucks wasn't put through a check and isn't the world record holder for sharpshooting?



People called in a person walking with a gun.

So what? If I call in a random walking black person, should they be arrested because "someone called it in?"
Look, this is TX apparently where it is legal to openly carry. If people there are calling this in, you better believe it is some weird assed ****. It is not normal to walk around in public with a rifle. PERIOD.

I feel bad for his kid.
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