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Old 04-18-2013, 06:36 PM   #161
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NFRs, don't bother. They aren't from here. They won't understand. The ones so "pro cop" are either cops, or have one in their family. You wasting your time.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:17 PM   #162
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Just keep your mouth shut and do as you're told huh?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/18...est=latestnews

Some of you are in for a RUDE awakening one day. BTW, the ONLY reason the cop got into hot water is that the incident was caught on tape. If there were no cameras or witnesses, the cop would have probably arrested the guy for disorderly, and when the victim protested, he would have added resisting to boot. Happens hundreds of times a day (maybe thousands) to innocent people, but only a fraction of those incidents are brought to light.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #163
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Just keep your mouth shut and do as you're told huh?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/18...est=latestnews

Some of you are in for a RUDE awakening one day. BTW, the ONLY reason the cop got into hot water is that the incident was caught on tape. If there were no cameras or witnesses, the cop would have probably arrested the guy for disorderly, and when the victim protested, he would have added resisting to boot. Happens hundreds of times a day (maybe thousands) to innocent people, but only a fraction of those incidents are brought to light.
Too much power, not enough brains. Hell, the 60 something year old idiot alabama fan who poisoned the trees at Auburn was a retired state trooper.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:23 PM   #164
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NYC cops are poorly educated, with the attitudes to match. The standards to become a cop are way too low for the power they wield. Period.
Who in their right mind would want to be a cop with the way they get treated by the public?
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:44 PM   #165
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Who in their right mind would want to be a cop with the way they get treated by the public?
Two way street. Most become cops to uphold the constitution and serve their communities. Some however, become cops because they want the power.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:21 PM   #166
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:29 PM   #167
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NYC cops are poorly educated, with the attitudes to match. The standards to become a cop are way too low for the power they wield. Period.
so what would be your solution? i'm 100% in agreement that high standards should be set.
what would you do to attract more educated, more capable and competent individuals to the career field?

more pay? more benefits? better retirement? education incentives (and how much for education)?
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #168
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so what would be your solution? i'm 100% in agreement that high standards should be set.
what would you do to attract more educated, more capable and competent individuals to the career field?

more pay? more benefits? better retirement? education incentives (and how much for education)?
None of that is necessary. NYPD cops actually make a lot of money after a few years of service. To solve the problem is actually VERY simple. Extremely harsh punishments. Pension deductions/complete forfeiture, personal financial liability lawsuits, and mandatory prison sentences. Boom, police corruption/incompetence will drop by 90%. For example, in this particular case, the cop would be liable financially if the civil suit awards the victim money. There is no reason why a police department/taxpayers need to foot the bill for some powertrippy douche and his antics, furthermore, 3 months in jail (along with being fired) for violating his oath to the constitution and assaulting an innocent person. With harsh punishments come results. Oh, and one more thing, all police must have personal liability insurance like security guards.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:59 PM   #169
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NFRs2000nyc taking this thread over! I've agreed with nearly everything he has posted.

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Old 04-18-2013, 10:12 PM   #170
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Who in their right mind would want to be a cop with the way they get treated by the public?
The guy who barely finished high school, and couldn't do anything else. It came down to being a cop or working at Staples. But with being a cop, they can be on an ego trip and not get punched in the face for it.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:14 PM   #171
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so what would be your solution? i'm 100% in agreement that high standards should be set.
what would you do to attract more educated, more capable and competent individuals to the career field?

more pay? more benefits? better retirement? education incentives (and how much for education)?
Benefits are already outstanding. Solution? Raise the standards in all aspects, physical and education. Make it a desirable job that is harder to obtain. If that is done, I am all for paying them accordingly.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:15 PM   #172
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None of that is necessary. NYPD cops actually make a lot of money after a few years of service. To solve the problem is actually VERY simple. Extremely harsh punishments. Pension deductions/complete forfeiture, personal financial liability lawsuits, and mandatory prison sentences. Boom, police corruption/incompetence will drop by 90%. For example, in this particular case, the cop would be liable financially if the civil suit awards the victim money. There is no reason why a police department/taxpayers need to foot the bill for some powertrippy douche and his antics, furthermore, 3 months in jail (along with being fired) for violating his oath to the constitution and assaulting an innocent person. With harsh punishments come results. Oh, and one more thing, all police must have personal liability insurance like security guards.
You're from Short Hills. I'm from Alpine. So we share much in common. Our areas, cops make a killing. NYPD, they really don't, especially after a few years.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:15 PM   #173
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Benefits are already outstanding. Solution? Raise the standards in all aspects, physical and education. Make it a desirable job that is harder to obtain. If that is done, I am all for paying them accordingly.
Doesn't solve the problem. More pay and higher education don't hold people accountable.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:22 PM   #174
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Doesn't solve the problem. More pay and higher education don't hold people accountable.
Holding them accountable, you addressed. Making a police officer accountable for his abuse of power by making punishments even more extreme than that of the common citizen, would go very far.

And as far as what I said about raising standards, it too would eliminate much of the issue of holding cops accountable. Right now seeing 5' tall, 5' wide females with 3" nails waddle out of a squad car.. as a representative of their municipality to "Protect and Serve" is beyond laughable. If a cop speaks ebonics, its an issue.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:25 PM   #175
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Holding them accountable, you addressed. Making a police officer accountable for his abuse of power by making punishments even more extreme than that of the common citizen, would go very far.

And as far as what I said about raising standards, it too would eliminate much of the issue of holding cops accountable. Right now seeing 5' tall, 5' wide females with 3" nails waddle out of a squad car.. as a representative of their municipality to "Protect and Serve" is beyond laughable. If a cop speaks ebonics, its an issue.
Agreed. Full retard, and people wonder why.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-b...6#.UXCq6Kt4Y2o
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:01 AM   #176
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Agreed. Full retard, and people wonder why.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-b...6#.UXCq6Kt4Y2o
That's weird, but I can honestly see their point. I know I would get pretty bored with it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:03 AM   #177
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As for the education. There could be a program like tuition reimbursement for the military. Yes, it would add money to tax dollars, but if taken seriously could change the overall quality of police behavior. If every precinct stressed the importance of getting higher education and had small incentives in rank or pay for completing it, it's possible attitudes could change over time.
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:15 AM   #178
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i'm 100% for raising the standard, but when you do that, you're going to need to up the pay to attract better applicants.
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