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Old 05-02-2013, 01:11 AM   #721
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Correct, which is why I'm not looking to go more than roughly 800rwhp.. which I feel I could put down decently with boost by gear/mph on R888's on 18's. I was cutting 5.6's on 265/35/19's.. so I think 18's should be fine.

I'm not looking to roll around on massive drag radials, nor am I going to widebody the car..

I'm not sure what you mean about Chad and circles?
cars with less hp, are cutting way better times. Chad knew it didn't matter if you had 1000000hp or 100hp. If you can't put it down, spend the cash on hookers. Now you are gonna go smaller turbine with better engine management.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:18 AM   #722
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cars with less hp, are cutting way better times. Chad knew it didn't matter if you had 1000000hp or 100hp. If you can't put it down, spend the cash on hookers. Now you are gonna go smaller turbine with better engine management.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not yet.. but I'll respond anyways.

My car cut consistent.. 5.6s 60-130's.. on 19" wheels with 265/30/19 tires.. ( i misspoke before, they're 30's not 35's).. I was only utilizing that 890rwhp in 5th gear+.. and even then I was still on traction control all the way to 155mph.. but with boost by gear I was able to dial it in.. if I was on 18's with more sidewall, I'm sure I could have cut a slightly better time.. yes, I have more horsepower than I need.. but I was never after 1000rwhp.. my goal was a fast drag car and fast street car.. its not going to do both well. Just doesn't work like that.. and I was at a cross roads so I decided to go back to a more street friendly trim.

I was not aware of anyone cutting better than 5.6s with less horsepower unless you're referring to those who've basically cut 5.6s's as well with 6766's and roughly 800rwhp as opposed to my 890rwhp.. they did so on 18"s, or big drag radials..

Where Kenton refuses to sacrafice (and tom for the most part) on creature comforts of the car to make big power, I refuse to put on drag radials or big tires and make it look like a jacked up chevy nova.. Kenton found a great tire combo with some Apex 18"s on some beefier R888's.. looks great and doesn't look like a jacked up muscle car.

Sorry for the off topic Tom!
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:29 AM   #723
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:59 AM   #724
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:48 AM   #725
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I'm not sure if you're trolling or not yet.. but I'll respond anyways.

My car cut consistent.. 5.6s 60-130's.. on 19" wheels with 265/30/19 tires.. ( i misspoke before, they're 30's not 35's).. I was only utilizing that 890rwhp in 5th gear+.. and even then I was still on traction control all the way to 155mph.. but with boost by gear I was able to dial it in.. if I was on 18's with more sidewall, I'm sure I could have cut a slightly better time.. yes, I have more horsepower than I need.. but I was never after 1000rwhp.. my goal was a fast drag car and fast street car.. its not going to do both well. Just doesn't work like that.. and I was at a cross roads so I decided to go back to a more street friendly trim.

I was not aware of anyone cutting better than 5.6s with less horsepower unless you're referring to those who've basically cut 5.6s's as well with 6766's and roughly 800rwhp as opposed to my 890rwhp.. they did so on 18"s, or big drag radials..

Where Kenton refuses to sacrafice (and tom for the most part) on creature comforts of the car to make big power, I refuse to put on drag radials or big tires and make it look like a jacked up chevy nova.. Kenton found a great tire combo with some Apex 18"s on some beefier R888's.. looks great and doesn't look like a jacked up muscle car.

Sorry for the off topic Tom!

Marcus,

We are going off the topic but I want to tell you that a 1000 whp M3 will cover 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.7 seconds.

By looking at your 5,6 s time and your 100-130 time, your M3 seems far away from 1000 WHp.

Any real 1000 whp M3 will take 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.8 seconds.

Just check 1000 whp cars' graphs and you will see what I mean.

a 2.8 seconds 100-130 mph indicates much less whp than 1000 whp.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:53 AM   #726
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Marcus,

We are going off the topic but I want to tell you that a 1000 whp M3 will cover 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.7 seconds.

By looking at your 5,6 s time and your 100-130 time, your M3 seems far away from 1000 WHp.

Any real 1000 whp M3 will take 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.8 seconds.

Just check 1000 whp cars' graphs and you will see what I mean.

a 2.8 seconds 100-130 mph indicates much less whp than 1000 whp.
It's the amount of time the engine is applying the full power output that will cut down that time. If he was spinning, then he wasn't seeing ~900 rwhp until maybe after 100 mph, anything before that it might have only been putting 400-600 rwhp down between spinning and any sort of turbo lag.
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It's the amount of time the engine is applying the full power output that will cut down that time. If he was spinning, then he wasn't seeing ~900 rwhp until maybe after 100 mph, anything before that it might have only been putting 400-600 rwhp down between spinning and any sort of turbo lag.

Accepted.

but over 100 mph till 130 mph there is almost no Wheel spin and the supposed to be 1000 whp M3 should take the 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.8 seconds.
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Ok, I was told by Rob that FSR informed you guys had to run solid motor mounts, he didn't say it was because of the 4" inlet pipe. Also xixixi needs to get laid but he did bring up a couple valid points, I have to empty my catch can every 3-500 miles, I know you said this is normal and the hpf catch can is tiny compared to the ones you guys build for supras, does anyone else think filling the hpf catch can every 3-500 miles is abnormal? Xixixi I have never seen a hpf stg 4 car dynod anywhere but hpf so who knows if they actually ever made 1022 whp... Sps mustang dyno is very stingy I bet that my trans 1022 whp would have been closer to 950 on SPs dyno...
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Does anyone else think filling the hpf catch can every 3-500 miles is abnormal? ...
I have never seen a hpf stg 4 car dynod anywhere but hpf so who knows if they actually ever made 1022 whp... Sps mustang dyno is very stingy I bet that my trans 1022 whp would have been closer to 950 on SPs dyno...
I empty my catch can every fill up...In hotter weather or spirited driving it doesn't catch anything...in colder weather alot more liquids condense and it has been half full on more than one occasion when driving normal in the cold.

As for the HPF cars making 1000whp yes the only ones I know of are MyTran and the HPF car. I know Jason was close around 960. I agree that SP's Mustang is more of a heart breaker dyno but still it would be interesting to compare...I think our cars do better with load but regardless hopefully you get the numbers you want shortly.
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Marcus,

We are going off the topic but I want to tell you that a 1000 whp M3 will cover 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.7 seconds.

By looking at your 5,6 s time and your 100-130 time, your M3 seems far away from 1000 WHp.

Any real 1000 whp M3 will take 100-130 mph in 1.6 to 1.8 seconds.

Just check 1000 whp cars' graphs and you will see what I mean.

a 2.8 seconds 100-130 mph indicates much less whp than 1000 whp.
Have you gone full retard? Never go full retard!

I'm not tooting my horn on the TIME, I'm talking about the size of the tires I did that time on.. consistently might I add. My car made high 800's rwhp at that time and was not running full boost (intentionally). If I wanted to put bigger drag radials, and 17's, and up the boost, sure I could likely beat 5.6.. but thats not the point I'm trying to make.. and good luck with sub 2 second 60-130's .. find me a car with 1000whp that does a sub 2 second 60-130.. I have got to see this.
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Have you gone full retard? Never go full retard!

I'm not tooting my horn on the TIME, I'm talking about the size of the tires I did that time on.. consistently might I add. My car made high 800's rwhp at that time and was not running full boost (intentionally). If I wanted to put bigger drag radials, and 17's, and up the boost, sure I could likely beat 5.6.. but thats not the point I'm trying to make.. and good luck with sub 2 second 60-130's .. find me a car with 1000whp that does a sub 2 second 60-130.. I have got to see this.
Marcus a 5.6s 60-130 is around 2.7s 100-130 which does not equal 1000rwhp...just FYI

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Marcus a 5.6s 60-130 is around 2.7s 100-130 which does not equal 1000rwhp...just FYI

2.7s 60-100 doesn't sound like 10,000hp

How did you do 130-130 in 5.6s seconds?

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Marcus a 5.6s 60-130 is around 2.7s 100-130 which does not equal 1000rwhp...just FYI

Oops misread Mert.

.. Mert I don't know my 100-130 times, but I do know that I can wheel spin at 100mph no problem. I wheel spin up to 155 on those 19"s. Dallas has seen me light up bias ply slicks at 140mph. Traction is a huge issue.
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Oops misread Mert.

.. Mert I don't know my 100-130 times, but I do know that I can wheel spin at 100mph no problem. I wheel spin up to 155 on those 19"s. Dallas has seen me light up bias ply slicks at 140mph. Traction is a huge issue.

Marcus,

when I read about these traction issues I open my hands and thank GOD.

last weekend I tested my E36 M3 Euro TT, it has so much traction that it will soon cover 60-130 in 3,4 - 3,5 seconds on regular highway asphalt, not on prepared track. And that will be in RWD mode

I started improving my RWD times as well, my E36 M3 hooks very solid and I believe 3,4-3,5 s 60-130 times are coming soon.

this is from last Sunday, Euro s50 b32 twin turbo, second gear 30 psi and very little spin. Camera car is a masserati 7000 cc with twin GT42 turbos....

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Kenton, this is a silent road, with nice scenery. Road surface is not perfect, heavy trucks destroy some parts of the road, but I hook
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Ok, I was told by Rob that FSR informed you guys had to run solid motor mounts, he didn't say it was because of the 4" inlet pipe. Also xixixi needs to get laid but he did bring up a couple valid points, I have to empty my catch can every 3-500 miles, I know you said this is normal and the hpf catch can is tiny compared to the ones you guys build for supras, does anyone else think filling the hpf catch can every 3-500 miles is abnormal? Xixixi I have never seen a hpf stg 4 car dynod anywhere but hpf so who knows if they actually ever made 1022 whp... Sps mustang dyno is very stingy I bet that my trans 1022 whp would have been closer to 950 on SPs dyno...

Tom, do not focus on peak numbers.

a 750 whp E46 will / may beat a 1000 whp.

Remember the more peak power the less mid range, hence the worse the performance.

If you want to pull fast on the Street and during air port events you need a beefy mid range. I ve tested different bore / stroke / compression ratios / turbo sizes.

750 whp with beefy mid range will be "fast"
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Another week no dyno.
Keep your head up Tom! Good things come to those who wait! Some jsut have to wait longer than others But your car will be when shes all done!
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