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Old 04-09-2013, 03:22 PM   #1
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Securing house against break-ins

There have been an increasing number of residential burglaries in my area and it has made me a bit uneasy. The burglars have been breaking into homes and grabbing a few items and they are back out to their cars before any alarm system goes off and alerts authorities. I have sliding window locks on all of the windows and have installed Schlage Primus cylinders in both the front and side doors as well as striker reinforcement plates. My back sliding patio door is what I worry about because the slider is on the outside so I cannot put a bar in it. Does anyone have sliding glass patio doors that they have secured with a better latch? I guess the correct way to do it would be to purchase a better door but I want to do something ti give me better peace of mind for the time being. I will be installing surveillance but that only helps so much when all of the burglars look the same and the police can't id them even with a clear facial pic.
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There have been an increasing number of residential burglaries in my area and it has made me a bit uneasy. The burglars have been breaking into homes and grabbing a few items and they are back out to their cars before any alarm system goes off and alerts authorities. I have sliding window locks on all of the windows and have installed Schlage Primus cylinders in both the front and side doors as well as striker reinforcement plates. My back sliding patio door is what I worry about because the slider is on the outside so I cannot put a bar in it. Does anyone have sliding glass patio doors that they have secured with a better latch? I guess the correct way to do it would be to purchase a better door but I want to do something ti give me better peace of mind for the time being. I will be installing surveillance but that only helps so much when all of the burglars look the same and the police can't id them even with a clear facial pic.
I've never heard of that before. What an odd design.

How about putting some flood lights in the yard so the area is well lit at night and use something like the following (click here).
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Old 04-09-2013, 04:03 PM   #3
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Re-install your door correctly. Get motion lights, security signs. Maybe a sign that says trespassers will be shot?
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Lights, sirens, signs are all good ideas. Criminals are cowards.
They will flee once they are detected.

Security monitoring companies, Cameras are good too, but only after the crime is already done with.

You've taken some good steps reinforcing locks and door jambs

http://www.doordevil.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=puscHttT2ss
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Cameras are good too, but only after the crime is already done with.
^Unless they see them or you have a monitor on home office desk.

OP - Budget $5,000 and you can get a great alarm, 4-8 cameras, better lighting, and reinforcement options.
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I've never heard of that before. What an odd design.

How about putting some flood lights in the yard so the area is well lit at night and use something like the following (click here).
I already have motion sensor flood lights that light the entire yard very well but all of these recent burglaries have been mid day while people are at work. If someone tries at night, I won't hesitate to introduce them to one of my guns. That lock looks like exactly what I need.

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Re-install your door correctly. Get motion lights, security signs. Maybe a sign that says trespassers will be shot?
The door is like that by design. I looked up the model and apparently the manufacturer used to make all their sliding glass doors that way. Security signs may be a good idea as a deterrent. The burglars typically work in groups of 2 or 3. They have one person knock on the door to see if anyone is home. If a person answers, they have some stupid thing to say or they pretend to be a solicitor. If not, they walk away and alert their cohorts that nobody answered. The cohorts then pull up and enter the property like they are meant to be there and break in through a side or back door. Many people have caught them on cameras but they all look the same so it is hard to even trace them. Bunk plates on their cars too.

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Lights, sirens, signs are all good ideas. Criminals are cowards.
They will flee once they are detected.

Security monitoring companies, Cameras are good too, but only after the crime is already done with.

You've taken some good steps reinforcing locks and door jambs

http://www.doordevil.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=puscHttT2ss
It seems like they will check for alarms and basically do a smash and grab if the house is alarmed. I have reinforced the door jams against kick ins.

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^Unless they see them or you have a monitor on home office desk.

OP - Budget $5,000 and you can get a great alarm, 4-8 cameras, better lighting, and reinforcement options.
What type of brands should I look at? Do they have packages or should I buy an NVR/DVR and the cameras separate?
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I already have motion sensor flood lights that light the entire yard very well but all of these recent burglaries have been mid day while people are at work. If someone tries at night, I won't hesitate to introduce them to one of my guns. That lock looks like exactly what I need.

The door is like that by design. I looked up the model and apparently the manufacturer used to make all their sliding glass doors that way. Security signs may be a good idea as a deterrent. The burglars typically work in groups of 2 or 3. They have one person knock on the door to see if anyone is home. If a person answers, they have some stupid thing to say or they pretend to be a solicitor. If not, they walk away and alert their cohorts that nobody answered. The cohorts then pull up and enter the property like they are meant to be there and break in through a side or back door. Many people have caught them on cameras but they all look the same so it is hard to even trace them. Bunk plates on their cars too.



It seems like they will check for alarms and basically do a smash and grab if the house is alarmed. I have reinforced the door jams against kick ins.



What type of brands should I look at? Do they have packages or should I buy an NVR/DVR and the cameras separate?
Send me $3000 and I will send you a box 'o stuff.
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dowel rods from home depot $1 a piece .

put one in every window so they can be seen from the outside and one at the bottom of the sliding door.
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What is entailed with the install of a surveillance system? Do I need to run power and video wiring to each camera, or just video? Where would you place the recorder to minimize risk of it getting yanked?

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dowel rods from home depot $1 a piece .

put one in every window so they can be seen from the outside and one at the bottom of the sliding door.
I have these on every window:

and just bought this for the sliding glass door:


I am also screwing self tapping panhead screws into the track above the slider to help prevent it from being lifted off the track.
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I already have motion sensor flood lights that light the entire yard very well but all of these recent burglaries have been mid day while people are at work. If someone tries at night, I won't hesitate to introduce them to one of my guns. That lock looks like exactly what I need.

The door is like that by design. I looked up the model and apparently the manufacturer used to make all their sliding glass doors that way. Security signs may be a good idea as a deterrent. The burglars typically work in groups of 2 or 3. They have one person knock on the door to see if anyone is home. If a person answers, they have some stupid thing to say or they pretend to be a solicitor. If not, they walk away and alert their cohorts that nobody answered. The cohorts then pull up and enter the property like they are meant to be there and break in through a side or back door. Many people have caught them on cameras but they all look the same so it is hard to even trace them. Bunk plates on their cars too.



It seems like they will check for alarms and basically do a smash and grab if the house is alarmed. I have reinforced the door jams against kick ins.



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Seriously...

Look for Sony 700 line EFFIO cameras with a 2.8-12mm varifocal lens and 30+ leds. Should fine them between $100 and way under $200 each.

I would do a DVR not a NVR personally. Look for D1 resolution ON ALL CHANNELS AT 30fps EACH.

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I'm confused as to what a lock is actually doing on something like a glass window or door. You guys do realize its glass right? Do you know how easy it is to break glass...? Take brick from yard. Tap glass. Insta-entry. Your fancy locks are doing nothing.
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That's not an option since his door slides from the outside. You'd essentially be locking yourself in
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I'm confused as to what a lock is actually doing on something like a glass window or door. You guys do realize its glass right? Do you know how easy it is to break glass...? Take brick from yard. Tap glass. Insta-entry. Your fancy locks are doing nothing.
For real dudes around here just break the glass and get in and out in minutes

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Get one of those digital picture frames with a hidden camera or a clock radio with a motion sensor.

If someone does break in you can record them.
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It goes without saying that the number of crimes has increased many fold in the last few years. Hence it is paramount to use Steel Security Doors to save your home from the criminal attacks and to maintain the elegance of your own. You can also make hands at Security Screen Doors and Aluminium Security Doors to impart a wow look to your home and maintain the security at the same time.
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My security system, although if someone actually got in he'd probably grab a ball and bring it to them.
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What is entailed with the install of a surveillance system? Do I need to run power and video wiring to each camera, or just video? Where would you place the recorder to minimize risk of it getting yanked?
You can get cables that have video and power molded together (looks like thick speaker wire)

Ideally, you put the DVR somewhere out of site that someone would not think of. Behind a dresser in the guest room, AWAY from other AV gear or expensive items, etc. They use a remote control, so you wire up a Xantech IR repeater or an RF remote system and don't need to get to it physically.
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