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Old 05-12-2013, 01:27 PM   #21
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People are too soft these days. To hell with being politically correct and having to avoid stepping on toes.
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Old 05-12-2013, 01:44 PM   #22
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so the chick was a loser in highschool... she blames it on the fact she kicks the ball like child with cerebral palsy...she is a damaged and broken individual well into her adult life and is so scorned that she feels compelled to write an article illustrating how much of a failure gym class made her...




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The author's view is so simplistic, so binary.

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If I had not been subjected to such effective team-building exercises, maybe as an adult I would not be such a loner. Experiences in school can have a devastating effect into adulthood. A British study from Loughborough University showed that physical education in school can be so traumatic that it turns women away from physical fitness for the rest of their lives.
How many would-be loners ended up with more friends, more socially-well-adjusted, more prepared for the competitive nature of the world, and more physically healthy/athletic than they would have been if they hadn't been "subjected to such effective team-building exercises"?

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Needless to say, my physical fitness did not improve over the course of my school career. Instead, I developed a slouch and the impression that my perfectly normal body was disabled. A notion that, despite being in perfectly good shape, I held onto until I was 30.
Wait, I thought female body issues came from fashion magazines and porn. Now it's sports/PE in school? Geez, I need a flow chart.

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To make matters worse, sports in a school setting are not even an effective way to get exercise. According to a 2006 investigation, high school students got an average of 16 minutes of actual exercise a in an hour of gym class. The notion that our school gymnasiums are the breeding ground for our nation’s professional athletes has kept physical education from actually educating children about their bodies or how to use them
I'm sure it's no small challenge to fit PE class into a normal school schedule. Take a 50 minute period, subtract a few minutes at the beginning and end for changing clothes, some time for explaining the game or exercise or whatever, selecting teams, setting up/breaking down equipment, instruction/coaching and so on, and it's understandable that there's little time left for actual activity. But 16 min/hr is weak sauce from a fitness POV. So if that's true, I would be in favor of making changes that would increase the min/hr.

Given the health issues in the nation, I would also be in favor of attempting to better educate mid/high school students about nutrition and give them more classroom education about physical fitness and overall health. But there's no way I'd be in favor of LESS exercise/sport/physical activity.

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Some schools have changed their curricula to reflect a healthier, more inclusive view of physical education. Michelle Obama’s “Let’s Move” initiative promotes healthy eating and a positive outlook to combat childhood obesity. However, many schools still teach that fitness has to be a competitive venture, which rewards those who are already comfortable in their bodies while making others flounder their way into adulthood needlessly diminished and damaged.
Again, why is it necessarily one or the other? How many kids were lousy athletes in 6th grade, but got better through HS? How many kids struggled with a few sports in their early HS years and then discovered the one they were really good at, or really liked, or were really passionate about by their junior/senior years?

How many kids were never that great at any sport, but they still put their best effort into participating, and THAT effort was what became character-building for them, THAT is what gained them the respect of their peers, THAT is what taught them to persevere?

Besides, learning that you're not athletic is still LEARNING. If the author hadn't learned early and well that she's not athletic, how much trouble would she have gotten herself into over the years by overestimating her ability to do a hike, play a sport, outrun a mugger, etc?



Ignoring the psychology of the whole thing for a moment, to be healthy, people don't need to win, or even be good at, competitive team sports. To be healthy, people don't need to be world-class, or even zip-code-class at, individual sports.

But to be healthy, people need exercise. And suggesting that kids these days need LESS exercise and activity, that it should be removed from the primary institution that kids deal with, is ridiculous.
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I am a firmer believer that team sports/activities build character and help establish and strengthen qualities/traits that will help an individual succeed later in life both in their personal and professional aspirations.

If you create an environment in which no one is ever exposed to failure than you're setting up individuals for monumental failures later in life when their incapable of reacting appropriately.
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Yawn.

So much crying. "We're becoming a nation of pvssies " Not sure who's the puss; the kids today, of the pearl clutchers who bemoan the state of the coddled kids today. Older ppl have been calling younger gens. "pvssies" for a while now...
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So much crying. "We're becoming a nation of pvssies " Not sure who's the puss; the kids today, of the pearl clutchers who bemoan the state of the coddled kids today. Older ppl have been calling younger gens. "pvssies" for a while now...
Look, here is the problem.

We are creating pvssies by removing ALL frustrations, headaches, failures, and disappointments from their lives.

Realizing that I was NOT built to play football (however much I enjoyed it) was a good life lesson. So was s*cking at hockey, tennis, long-distance running, and wrestling. In fact, I learned more about self-confidence and accepting failures wrestling for one season than I did from a decade playing baseball. NOT being good at something teaches you to cope with failure, accept inadequacies, and recognize that you will not ALWAYS be the best (or even good). Today, we are taking all the failures out in the name of making life better for those who s*ck at them... in turn, we're not only failing to teach our kids how to play the game, we're teaching them how to deal with a loss... and THAT is a HUGE problem.

Those kids outside the big buildings on wall street... they are just complaining because they hate the haves... they are complaining because they don't know how to deal with being a have-not... and who can blame them when our system isn't set up to teach them that.
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If you create an environment in which no one is ever exposed to failure than you're setting up individuals for monumental failures later in life when their incapable of reacting appropriately.
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My wife teaches 2nd grade and the majority of teachers don't share the same view point as the author, however a good portion of parents do.

One thing that I find frustrating for teachers, is the mainstreaming of "special need" students into regular classrooms. The majority of the special need students are fine, whether it be autism, down syndrome, MS or a physical disability. It's good for the classroom as a whole to learn from each others differences.

The problem comes in when there are children who are mentally unstable and cause a scene constantly which disrupts classroom learning from the other students. Parents continue to lobby for equality in fear of their children having a label, when the child would actually benefit from special learning.
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My senior year I had one gym class and used to sneak into two more. I played bball all day long. I must have smelled like sh1t. Maybe that's why I didn't get laid.
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Sadly, this broad thinks she is onto something. She is/was obviously a loser and is fixated on figuring out why and, of course, has resolved to blame it on other people.

God forbid anyone not have 100% proficiency in all areas. How do some of these people even get out of bed in the morning without a pep talk? People need to toughen up or G.T.F.O. Don't project your wimpy nonsense on the rest of us.
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While I somewhat agree, every generation has said this about the younger generation for as long as I can remember.
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While I somewhat agree, every generation has said this about the younger generation for as long as I can remember.
This is true... but "walking to school 8 miles each way" and "everyone is now a winner" are slightly different.

I think each generation in this country has had it "easier" than the past... I think we are just now at a boiling point where it's like "realllllllly?". That's all I can think when I see most articles these days (Janitors suing because they demand Spanish signs, this, etc).
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While I somewhat agree, every generation has said this about the younger generation for as long as I can remember.
I am of one of the younger generations and I agree with Chase.
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While I somewhat agree, every generation has said this about the younger generation for as long as I can remember.
That's because it is probably true. You work hard to give your kids a "better" (read: easier) life than you. They do the same, but they started at a better place since you put in the ground work before them. Eventually everything is a cake walk, so to speak.
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