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Old 05-15-2013, 12:10 PM   #261
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I've never smoked it, but it wouldn't bother me one bit if it were legalized. If the effect is the same or less than alcohol, there is no rational reason to keep it illegal. Just regulate it under the BATFE and make some money from the sales. Surely drivers can be tested for it to enforce impaired driving laws.

That being said, I don't think it will happen for many, many years.
That's the problem, enforcing impaired driving laws for marijuana and other drugs is extremely difficult because all individuals have different tolerances. Alcohol is much easier because no matter who you are, after a certain amount of consumption, you will be inebriated. Marijuana is totally different, depending on the smoker and the quality.

That being said, I am for the legalization of all prohibited substances.
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Legalizing prostitution and just about any drug makes economic sense... it's the unintended consequences (not fiscal consequences) that are the issue.
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Legalizing prostitution and just about any drug makes economic sense... it's the unintended consequences (not fiscal consequences) that are the issue.
Yeah, b/c when ppl start having sex and smoking weed society will crumble. Oh, wait...
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Legalizing prostitution and just about any drug makes economic sense... it's the unintended consequences (not fiscal consequences) that are the issue.
Those are byproducts of human nature that will never be eliminated, no matter how much legislation we put in place. All we're doing by keeping them prohibited is creating an illegal market.
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Legalizing prostitution and just about any drug makes economic sense... it's the unintended consequences (not fiscal consequences) that are the issue.
Like reduction of the prison population? Reduction in gang violence that has to do with the drug trade?


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That's the problem, enforcing impaired driving laws for marijuana and other drugs is extremely difficult because all individuals have different tolerances. Alcohol is much easier because no matter who you are, after a certain amount of consumption, you will be inebriated. Marijuana is totally different, depending on the smoker and the quality.

That being said, I am for the legalization of all prohibited substances.
If they can figure out a way to reliably gauging the impaired, I'm fine with legalizing whatever they want. I don't think everyone is going to rush out and buy heroine if it gets legalized. You'll still have meth cookers who won't fall under regulated sales and they will get arrested just as they do now.

If enforcement poses a challenge, I can see the reason for keeping certain substances illegal until they figure out a solution.

I don't tune into the legalization topics too often, but when I do, the reasons for preventing legalization are not rational.
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If they can figure out a way to reliably gauging the impaired, I'm fine with legalizing whatever they want. I don't think everyone is going to rush out and buy heroine if it gets legalized. You'll still have meth cookers who won't fall under regulated sales and they will get arrested just as they do now.

If enforcement poses a challenge, I can see the reason for keeping certain substances illegal until they figure out a solution.

I don't tune into the legalization topics too often, but when I do, the reasons for preventing legalization are not rational.
Did you see that it's now a misdemeanor and a ticket for having under a certain amount of weed in St. Louis as opposed to a felony? I don't smoke but I was happy to see this come across Slay's desk.
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Hey, legalizing prostitution and cocaine will also increase tax revenues and decrease the burden on our security forces.... and hell, we should start televising dog fights and gladiator wars because that will create new areas of business as well.

While at it, how about we also legalize discrimination and bigotry and film people walking around taunting others for the color of their skin, the size of their waists, or the creed they worship... I mean, some people will pay to watch that.

In other words, we can't just agree to anything and everything that generates revenue because our federal and state governments are going broke. Hell, the deficits are the result of nanny state spending... get RID of the welfare state and we'll be juuuuuust fine.

On a personal note, I HATE the smell of weed.
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It's only illegal because of society deeming it some terrible drug that could end your life. If everyone stopped, tried it, and actually experienced it, the laws would change tomorrow.

Decade before it's legal in most states, two decades until if reaches federal level. That's my predictions.
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Did you see that it's now a misdemeanor and a ticket for having under a certain amount of weed in St. Louis as opposed to a felony? I don't smoke but I was happy to see this come across Slay's desk.
No, didn't know that. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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If they can figure out a way to reliably gauging the impaired, I'm fine with legalizing whatever they want. I don't think everyone is going to rush out and buy heroine if it gets legalized. You'll still have meth cookers who won't fall under regulated sales and they will get arrested just as they do now.

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I don't tune into the legalization topics too often, but when I do, the reasons for preventing legalization are not rational.
From a pragmatist's standpoint, I agree with you. However in my idealistic youth, I still believe it's a fundamental violation of your inalienable rights to dictate what you are allowed to introduce into your own body and what you do with yourself afterwords. A large part of my opposition to any outside influence over the action of individual stems from the reverse psychology involved with such a policy. We're encouraging people to try things by making them illegal to some degree.

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Like reduction of the prison population? Reduction in gang violence that has to do with the drug trade?


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And once again.. we have a thread discussing an issue (legaizlation of marijuana) and we have those arguing against (based on logic) and those arguing for (based on the fact they like to get high).

Look at how emotional the posts above are? Just jabs and slings thrown over at me for making a very logical, reasonable point about revenue generation v. unintended consequences.

Doing drugs and having sex... oh wow big deal. Well it is actually a HUGE deal. Are there reasonable arguments to be made on both sides? Sure.. but present them like adults and don't simply insult those of the contrary position

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From a pragmatist's standpoint, I agree with you. However in my idealistic youth, I still believe it's a fundamental violation of your inalienable rights to dictate what you are allowed to introduce into your own body and what you do with yourself afterwords. A large part of my opposition to any outside influence over the action of individual stems from the reverse psychology involved with such a policy. We're encouraging people to try things by making them illegal to some degree.

Yep, me too.
Now, since this is a reasonable position free from juvenile insults (unlike others), I'll take a stab at this one.

The problem inherent in your position is that the government MUST regulate what people put in their bodies if it will also demand that the general public pay to ensure the safety of those around them. It's NOT reasonable to tell the general public that they can do whatever they want to their bodies and society (through government programs) will pay the bill. That is NOT how this society flourished.

So if you want a society in which there is no universal healthcare, no universal support programs, no _______, than legalize whatever you want. But if you're going to say that we "OWE IT TO PEOPLE" to ensure they have healthcare, then it isn't fair to place their risky behaviors at the foot of my paycheck. It seems to me that, in this country, we have a group of people who want the government to not tell them what to do with their lives and simultaneously ensure they have a safety net to cover whatever failures come their way. I want the government OUT. If that means they deregulate drugs, fine... but that also means that those taking them must be dealt with for illegal actions (swiftly) and that they are NOT granted universal protection from themselves... We need individual responsibility not a nanny state that just lets us act like clowns and cleans up after our messes.

At this point, the post will be quoted, some jackass will make personal insults because they're potheads and feel "assaulted" and the argument in favor of legalization will continue to be diluted by the in-articulation of the logical merits behind such.
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It bewilders me that alcohol is legal and regulated but not marijuana.
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And once again.. we have a thread discussing an issue (legaizlation of marijuana) and we have those arguing against (based on logic) and those arguing for (based on the fact they like to get high).

Doing drugs and having sex... oh wow big deal. Well it is actually a HUGE deal.
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