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Old 05-28-2013, 12:10 AM   #41
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I suppose "good" is relative. But BMW's generally have long wheelbases for their size and are built around high speed cornering, as opposed to the low speed tight corners in an autoX course. They have slow steering racks, tendency to understeer, and long wheel bases...all things that are a hindrance on an autoX course.

AutoX a Miata, then see if you think an E30 is a good autoX car. I love E30's, but they're just not fast at that stuff without a decent amount of modification.
Hell even a civic would give a run for the $$$
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:13 AM   #42
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No DSC here, got the ASC. If i get bored one day maybe ill hack out the back floor and weld up a mini cage for the subframe issues... Im feeling like ive out grown the mustang... ive put alot of time in to it... but it gives me headaches to drive it and hell it rattled a caliper bolt out at one time Its just an obnoxious car. Also 9mpg isnt really fun... The car doesent know what it wants to be... Its a Cruiser/Show/Racecar... Its too fast to run at a track without a cage... i dont want a cage in a street car, if i get in an accident my head is toast with a cage... Its a confused child


On another note... my 46 may be totaled... hit a dead deer on a dark road.
Ahh, I understand you browsing the Craig now. Sorry to hear about your car.

If you're done with the Mustang, i'd unload it and get something for track/autoX that fits the bill at this point. Then stick with something sensible and pretty fun to DD (assuming the E46 doesn't make it). It sounds like you're wanting a BMW for fun duty. I'd check out the Bimmerforums sections on a given model and hang out around there for a bit and soak it in. Look at common issues and common upgrades and get to know what the deal is with each. You'll figure out what best suits you.

Good luck with the car.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:19 AM   #43
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Ahh, I understand you browsing the Craig now. Sorry to hear about your car.

If you're done with the Mustang, i'd unload it and get something for track/autoX that fits the bill at this point. Then stick with something sensible and pretty fun to DD (assuming the E46 doesn't make it). It sounds like you're wanting a BMW for fun duty. I'd check out the Bimmerforums sections on a given model and hang out around there for a bit and soak it in. Look at common issues and common upgrades and get to know what the deal is with each. You'll figure out what best suits you.

Good luck with the car.
too attached to the mustang...
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:26 AM   #44
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too attached to the mustang...
Wow, you have a lot of work into that. You do the sheet metal work to the bay and everything? Not sure i'm into the white hood. But the rest of the car looks very well done.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:27 AM   #45
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Wow, you have a lot of work into that. You do the sheet metal work to the bay and everything? Not sure i'm into the white hood. But the rest of the car looks very well done.
White hood was because i havent got to painting it... but couldnt fit the motor under the stock hood...

Yeah, all the metalwork , paint, exhaust (all V bands), etc. i did... learned to weld and paint on it. Even did the replacement top (never again). I planned on a big rear mounted single with no FMIC
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:58 AM   #46
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re: original post. That 5 is too old & dated. doesn't do anything for me. But if u like....
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:59 AM   #47
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I'd be all over miatas if they were hard top. We have a lot of them running around over here they are way too small though. What's wrong with a z3? Close to same size I guess....
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:02 AM   #48
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Don't be so put off by the timing belt job on the m20's I had both and e30 and e34 with that engine. Seems like you like to work on your own cars and changing a timing belt isn't really more than a couple hours of work. I'd jump on it if you were gonna make something outta that car.
Ps, the e34 was one of the most reliable BMW's ever built. Sure its bronzit but a drop and style 5's or m parallels will make that thing look nice. I would be all over it if I had the cash but would also try and get the price lowered.
Nothing better than being in something practical and flying below the radar. Btw these cars take to FI really well.

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Old 05-28-2013, 07:43 AM   #49
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:46 AM   #50
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I'd be all over miatas if they were hard top. We have a lot of them running around over here they are way too small though. What's wrong with a z3? Close to same size I guess....
Well, they have an optional hard top, and it is pretty sturdy. It has a decently secure mounting system too. A lot of the auto-x guys ran with them, but I thought it was much more fun with the top down. The car was designed as a convertible, so it's not like you have to deal with extra weight or chassis flex because it is a convertible. Mazda built a hardtop coupe version as a show car, but it was considered "too odd looking". This was way before the Z3 M Coupe proved that some people would not care how it looked, if it was a bada$$ car. The newer models come with a folding hard top, in place of the ragtop, but that just adds unnecessary weight to the car.

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I suppose "good" is relative. But BMW's generally have long wheelbases for their size and are built around high speed cornering, as opposed to the low speed tight corners in an autoX course. They have slow steering racks, tendency to understeer, and long wheel bases...all things that are a hindrance on an autoX course.

AutoX a Miata, then see if you think an E30 is a good autoX car. I love E30's, but they're just not fast at that stuff without a decent amount of modification.
I drove a Miata for 7 years, and 200k miles. I also set it up for auto-x. Miatas are not powerhouses by anyone's standards, but it was wicked quick. It cornered to the point that it caused me neck pain on the auto-x course. One surprising thing about it was the amount of room under the hood for working on it.
I even installed headers from the top of the engine! I used a 6ft long cheater bar to move the engine about an inch to the side to get the old one out, and the new one in, but that was all. I did not even have to loosen the engine mounts.
I changed the timing belt, and the crankshaft and camshaft seals with the rediator in the car. I just had to remove the 4 screws for the fan. I had room to drive in the crankshaft seal! My biggest fear was hitting the radiator, so I put a piece of plywood over it, and mounted it in the screw holes for the fan. I have not had any other car that was built after 1980 that had that much room in the engine bay. Oh, BTW, I never even considered changing the water pump while I was in there. All of the articles I read said it was not necessary (Think about that, compared to the e46). In fact, I did not even change it at the 180k timing belt change. It was still good, and there was no leakage from the weep hole.
There was nothing on that car that was challenging to access, especially now that I have the e46 to compare it to.
I always felt like Mazda missed a great opportunity to put a V6 in that car. That would have been better than the turbo they eventually installed as an option (after 15 years of people installing aftermarket turbos and superchargers).
As I write this, I am wondering how hard it would be to put an e36 M3 engine in it. I saw one a few weeks ago, when I stopped by to visit a local guy who parts out wrecked BMW's. We discussed installing it in a Z3 that I would like to buy.
Damn it, you are going to end up costing me some money now...

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Old 05-28-2013, 12:20 PM   #51
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...and a timing belt. I don't care what the mileage is. I wouldn't driving around on a 23 year old belt.
Cool car, but that color is awful. Any other color but that!
The original owner was an ultra conservative right wing Congressman who supports the protection of the sanctity of marriage. So, there have been a lot of late night runs to pick up young male escorts. Lots of short trips, and lots of time with the engine idling with the AC on, and the lights off. Also, curb rash on all 4 wheels, from pulling over on dark streets to negotiate prices.
Forget the timing belt, you are going to have to spend more time cleaning the DNA samples from the leather and carpeting, and footprints on the headliner, from all of the "Tea Parties".
But, you may be able to quadruple your investment if you find a memory card from a digital camera under one of the seats!
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