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Old 05-25-2013, 08:58 AM   #1
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Beware of Virginia Scammers Neuron Sanders aka tpm3off and John Hing aka turbokanji

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1-8-2013: I an ad for a iPhone on E46fanatics.com, and send the seller an offer; he then sent me back a counter offer
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=962218


1-9-2013: I sent the seller a payment of $450 for the iPhone


1-10-2013: Seller confirms receipt of the payment
1-21-2013: I receive the phone and it is not at all as described, I bring the complaint to the seller and he asks me to send him the pictures
1-29-2013: Pictures were sent to the seller's email address (nmsaunders@ymail.com)
2-6-2013: Seller claims he was on vacation and will take care of everything upon his return.
2-16-2013: I shipped the phone back to the seller via USPS


2-22-2013: Seller confirms receipt of the phone
3-7-2013: Seller decides that he is going to send me the phone back, not provide a replacement, or a refund
3-7-2013: Seller acknowledges his original advertisement had misrepresented the phone
3-11-2013: Seller claims the iPhone will be shipped to me on 3-13-2013
3-25-2013: I continue to ask for a refund, and the seller continues to decline without any reason
3-26-2013: I decided to take the phone as it was because at this point having something is better than nothing
Approximately 4-10-2013: The seller and I have a phone call conversation, he informed me that he still hasn't shipped me back the phone but he plans on doing so when he gets a chance.
4-30-2013: I filed an FBI internet crime complaint against this individual in hopes of getting my money back.



His info:
Neuron Sanders
912 Colonial Ave
Williamsburg, VA 23185
7578498913
nmsaunders@ymail.com



Paypal Resolution Center:
I have spoken to Paypal's Resolution Center numerous times about this, and while they agree that the seller is clearly in the wrong here, they claim that because too much time has passed since the original payment, they can no longer do anything to help me.



Conversation logs:
While I did not record the various times I have spoken to this guy on the phone, I did log the text message conversations we had. Itís a 10 page document which is too long to post, so if anyone wants to see the entire text message conversation, simply send me your email address and Iíll send it right over.



Proof that he is also turbokanji:
(Screenshots are provided before these guys delete the posts)





























He is now selling his m3 here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=776843


If anyone knows this guy, have him call/text me, all I want is my money back.

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Old 05-25-2013, 09:09 AM   #2
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Sorry to hear that OP hopefully everything works out for the better
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:28 AM   #3
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Beware of Virginia Scammers Neuron Sanders aka tpm3off and John Hing aka turbok

Damn Chauncey people are straight up thieves now a days it's crazy. I can't stand people like that. It's happened to me, I sold a roof rack, seller said it wasn't as described I said no problem send me it back ill refund you, he never sent me it back and PayPal refunded him half the money -_-! Tried contacting him several times after that and never even got a reply, texts, Pmed and emailed him and nothing.

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Old 05-25-2013, 09:47 AM   #4
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Re: Beware of Virginia Scammers Neuron Sanders aka tpm3off and John Hing aka turbokan

Completely off topic but he lives a little to close to me for comfort. Back on topic want me to pay him a visit?
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:48 AM   #5
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Beware of Virginia Scammers Neuron Sanders aka tpm3off and John Hing aka turbok

Alot of these dudes are puzzi azz scumbags or lame smart asses with hidden agendas! Sounds like you got the "hong kong phooey"! I'd take a road trip with my uncle wesson and uncle smithers! $450?! Sommmmmme body has to get at least a chin check! No? (Im a Brooklyn boy- generally we dont play dat and go see that dishonest turd! Got me tight reading this post! Hope his balls explode spontaneously! Lol

For realnibgope theres an amicable resolve and the "uncles" do have to get involved


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Old 05-25-2013, 09:49 AM   #6
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Beware of Virginia Scammers Neuron Sanders aka tpm3off and John Hing aka turbok

For real i hope*


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Old 05-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #7
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OP, take a road trip this weekend, .........head south.



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Old 05-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #8
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Sorry to hear that OP hopefully everything works out for the better
Thanks, the whole point of this thread is in hopes that he will make this right.
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Damn Chauncey people are straight up thieves now a days it's crazy. I can't stand people like that. It's happened to me, I sold a roof rack, seller said it wasn't as described I said no problem send me it back ill refund you, he never sent me it back and PayPal refunded him half the money -_-! Tried contacting him several times after that and never even got a reply, texts, Pmed and emailed him and nothing.

Anyways good luck dude hope you get everything taken care of.


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Hey man, its bad enough that I lost out, but its sad to hear that you got scammed as well. At the very least, you should make a thread on your scammer like I did for these guys, don't let them get away with it without putting them out there.
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Completely off topic but he lives a little to close to me for comfort. Back on topic want me to pay him a visit?
That would be very much appreciated.
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Alot of these dudes are puzzi azz scumbags or lame smart asses with hidden agendas! Sounds like you got the "hong kong phooey"! I'd take a road trip with my uncle wesson and uncle smithers! $450?! Sommmmmme body has to get at least a chin check! No? (Im a Brooklyn boy- generally we dont play dat and go see that dishonest turd! Got me tight reading this post! Hope his balls explode spontaneously! Lol

For realnibgope theres an amicable resolve and the "uncles" do have to get involved


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For real i hope*


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I know how you feel man, I lived in Queens for two summers; the people out there do not mess around. Had these guys been local I would have stopped by way before things got out of hand, but being that he is hundreds of miles away puts him way out of my range of reach. Between grad school and work, I barely have time for homework, let alone dealing with this craziness. This was supposed to be a very simple transaction, yet it has turned out to be the worst one I have ever had to go through.
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OP, take a road trip this weekend, .........head south.


PS, Take your baseball bat with you, I here they play baseball in Virgina.
Haha, I like the way you think! I'm actually hoping that once he sees this thread with his name and information out in the public, he will realize what he has done and refund me the money.
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Well, since there are three sides to every story, let's see if these guys have the decency to respond:





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Old 05-31-2013, 08:55 AM   #10
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Update:
John said that he will forward this issue to his friend for resolution, I'll keep you guys posted.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:22 AM   #11
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No response from these guys so far, so BUMP!
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:32 AM   #12
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Update:
6-2-2013: John confirmed Neuron still has the iPhone
6-3-2013: I explain that if they still have the item (which I no longer need back), then a refund would only be fair.
6-7-2013: I remind the John that I'm still waiting to hear back from him
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It's time to consider THIS !
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:56 PM   #14
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Why didn't you make an immediate claim with Paypal? They would have given you your money back!
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:26 PM   #15
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Find this guy and pillage him
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:41 PM   #16
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I'm pretty sure I met both of these guys, turbokanji for sure at meets. John used to have a nice E46 M3 vert then sold it and got the E92 M3. He seemed like a nice guy in person back in the day, but I didn't know him on a personal level.
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