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Old 06-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #21
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lol the right thing? What, if enough people break a law we can just ignore it? How about the other side of that coin chump, let's do what's best for the DNC versus what's best for AMERICA.
What's best for America?
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:28 PM   #22
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What's best for America?
fiscal solvency
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:31 PM   #23
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Hitting hard again

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/ne...ig-head-start/
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In addition to being the one ethnic group most opposed to capitalism - even more than Occupy Wall Street protesters! - polls show that Hispanics are more pro-abortion than other Americans (66 percent of Hispanics versus 50 percent of other voters) and favor gay marriage more than other Americans (59 percent compared to 48 percent of all voters). They also support big government by an astronomical 75 percent and Obamacare, in particular, by 62 percent. (Polls: Pew, ABC, ABC, Pew, Fox)

Of course the Democrats want these illegals voting!
Not that we didn't know this already.

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http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/...ism-socialism/
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:47 PM   #24
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http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/ne...ig-head-start/


Not that we didn't know this already.

Better source for the babies

http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/...ism-socialism/
The people's press link highlights the ignorance of Americans. A fundamental misunderstanding of the ideologies of liberalism and conservatism and the systems of socialism and capitalism. If you are an American and believe in the Constitution you are a liberal--brush up on your Locke, Hobbes, and Rights of Man. But the political education of America is composed of sound bytes and bumper stickers.
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The people's press link highlights the ignorance of Americans. A fundamental misunderstanding of the ideologies of liberalism and conservatism and the systems of socialism and capitalism. If you are an American and believe in the Constitution you are a liberal--brush up on your Locke, Hobbes, and Rights of Man. But the political education of America is composed of sound bytes and bumper stickers.
Ignorant Americans decide elections. People actively following things like we do are a distinct and small minority.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:12 PM   #26
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Ignorant Americans decide elections. People actively following things like we do are a distinct and small minority.
And it drives me nuts.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:28 AM   #27
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The people's press link highlights the ignorance of Americans. A fundamental misunderstanding of the ideologies of liberalism and conservatism and the systems of socialism and capitalism. If you are an American and believe in the Constitution you are a liberal--brush up on your Locke, Hobbes, and Rights of Man. But the political education of America is composed of sound bytes and bumper stickers.
We agree.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #28
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No, it won't. So long as the public perception is that the democrats are the people that will give you free stuff the votes will stay there.
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No, it won't. So long as the GOP perception is that the sole reason that democrats are winning is simply because they are the people that will give you free stuff the that the votes will stay there.
I think a large problem with the GOP is that as their rhetoric and propaganda became ever more pointed, sharp and effective in winning elections, their underlying ideology became increasingly soft, sclerotic and rigid. It has now gotten to the point where their pointed rhetoric has essentially displaced deeper, more grounded ideology as their intellectual driving force. They actually now believe themselves what was once simply crass political rhetoric only meant to caricature and demonize the opposition for electoral purposes -- they're drinking their own Kool Aid and have become a sort of caricature in reverse themselves. They're now reactively defining themselves as the obverse of their own caricatures of the Dems. In so conflating their own political rhetoric with reality they are the ones becoming becoming ever more caricatured and clownish.

As a result, the GOP/TP are now left basically to clever tactical maneuvering (legislative obstructionism, gerrymandering, voter suppression in various forms, etc.) in ever more desperate attempts to retain power and influence even as they are appealing to ever smaller, older and restricted elements of the electorate in any deeper or more meaningful way. They're post-2012 autopsy did fairly bravely delve into this reality and the need to change, as did an analysis of younger voters more recently, but the GOP/TP seem either unwilling or unable to actually do so in any real way.

As I've mentioned before, I think they are consigned to suffer a few more electoral defeats -- probably a weaker than expected 2014 season and another drubbing in 2016 -- and some subsequent additional wandering in the political/ideological desert before they're truly ready and able to evolve into a party suited for 21st century America. The Dems went through a very analogous phase from the '70's into the '90's and now it seems to be the GOP's turn in this cycle.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:09 AM   #29
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It must be fun for liberals to manipulate Republicans into focusing on hopeless causes.
Gone are the days of personal accountability and thinking for one's self.

The current GOP base is shrinking. I would think it's to their advantage to win over Hispanics. It doesn't have to be through amnesty, but to completely ignore them would be political suicide.
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