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Old 06-29-2013, 12:14 AM   #61
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I also used the 3M kit and while $30 may be a bit much for what's there it's a good kit and worked very well for me.
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:54 AM   #62
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I also used the 3M kit and while $30 may be a bit much for what's there it's a good kit and worked very well for me.
Best product, I have tried others and this was the only one that would work.

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Old 06-29-2013, 01:02 AM   #63
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Just get new lenses. I wet sanded mine and it was a lot of work, the results were good, but it was definitely just a temporary fix.I later Bought lenses from khoalty for around $140...worth every penny.
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Old 06-29-2013, 01:04 AM   #64
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Just get new lenses. I wet sanded mine and it was a lot of work, the results were good, but it was definitely just a temporary fix.I later Bought lenses from khoalty for around $140...worth every penny.
Did you get the Bosch replacements? I just ordered some for $72, they're sold in pairs I think. Did you buy 2?

http://www.khoalty.com/headlight-lens-replacement.html
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:33 AM   #65
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Just get new lenses. I wet sanded mine and it was a lot of work, the results were good, but it was definitely just a temporary fix.I later Bought lenses from khoalty for around $140...worth every penny.
Yeah....like Sedan Hussein, I'M curious to hear what it was you bought from Khoalty, mainly because the descriptive copy on their website (http://www.khoalty.com/headlight-lens-replacement.html) is VERY confusing...approaching DECEPTIVE....in the way they double-talk about Bosch.

In one spot they talk about how EXPENSIVE Bosch lenses are....in a nearby sentence they say THEIRS ARE made by Bosch. (They actually have a Bosch logo on the page). I challenged them on it.....i.e. "Who actually makes YOUR lenses"......and I got equally sketchy explanations back from them by email.

Here's the actual email explanation...see if YOU can make any sense of it:

"02-05 Sedan are not Bosch, as the red texted paragraph explains. If you have an 02-05 sedan you won't find the lenses we sell anywhere else as nobody bothers to carry them as it's a pretty private offer. All the other are Bosch".

Based on that, if you bought a set of lenses for your '03, Bimmernate, it sounds like they're saying they're NOT Bosch.

Can anyone else shed some light on this?

Edit: Just a final thought, Bimmernate: maybe when YOU bought YOURS from them they WERE selling Bosch brand...but have since switched suppliers. (This would explain why you appear to have paid TWICE as much as they charge for a pair of their "sedan-version, NON-Bosch" current inventory. You say you paid about $140....THEY say they sell a pair for $72)
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:47 AM   #66
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How difficult is it to install lens replacements???

To all of you who DID make the decision to "replace" instead of "refurbish".....

1. Did you do the remove-and-replace yourself?

2. Approximately how long did it take you to do them?

3. Do you have any words of wisdom/warning for those of us now contemplating the job?

Thanks for any "insider" information.

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Scrub with toothpaste and a toothbrush..
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Scrub with toothpaste and a toothbrush..
I appreciate that you're trying to save us some bucks.....but by the same token, I have to assume that the Mother's, Maguires and everybody else with their $30 kits including extremely fine wet sandpaper, polishing compounds, foam polishing pads, etc, etc, etc, would do a job superior to toothpaste.

So, tell us, budman: did you ever successfully use toothpaste on your own car's lenses......and return them from the abyss of fog and cloud.....to crystal clear, near new condition?? Huh? Did ya?

And do you have before and after pics?

Enquiring minds NEED to know.
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:57 AM   #69
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A quick and dirty fix, not a full restore is to use toothpaste and polish the lenses. Apply a small amount to a terry cloth and rub into lenses. Rinse and polish with plastic polish like McGuiars.
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I appreciate that you're trying to save us some bucks.....but by the same token, I have to assume that the Mother's, Maguires and everybody else with their $30 kits including extremely fine wet sandpaper, polishing compounds, foam polishing pads, etc, etc, etc, would do a job superior to toothpaste.

So, tell us, budman: did you ever successfully use toothpaste on your own car's lenses......and return them from the abyss of fog and cloud.....to crystal clear, near new condition?? Huh? Did ya?

And do you have before and after pics?

Enquiring minds NEED to know.
Once the UV damage has reached into the plastic, there is nothing that will work 100% other than lens replacement. The toothpaste deal is much quicker and certainly improves appearance, especially for light (pardon the pun) hazing.
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Once the UV damage has reached into the plastic, there is nothing that will work 100% other than lens replacement. The toothpaste deal is much quicker and certainly improves appearance, especially for light (pardon the pun) hazing.
Yes......that was exactly my experience, even with the expensive Mother's "solution".

The harder I sanded and polished.....the deeper in I could see the damage actually resided. It's as though the plastic is almost "crystallized" all the way through, from outside to inside. Almost as though it had been HIT and resulted in a million small, internal fractures.
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I appreciate that you're trying to save us some bucks.....but by the same token, I have to assume that the Mother's, Maguires and everybody else with their $30 kits including extremely fine wet sandpaper, polishing compounds, foam polishing pads, etc, etc, etc, would do a job superior to toothpaste.

So, tell us, budman: did you ever successfully use toothpaste on your own car's lenses......and return them from the abyss of fog and cloud.....to crystal clear, near new condition?? Huh? Did ya?

And do you have before and after pics?

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Not on my BMW as i havent had the need they are still like new even after 8 years...

i did it on the lights for my car at work and it worked just fine as a quick cheap fix.. may not be perfect but it beat paying. As others said in order to get them back perfect just buy some news ones.
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Not on my BMW as i havent had the need they are still like new even after 8 years...

i did it on the lights for my car at work and it worked just fine as a quick cheap fix.. may not be perfect but it beat paying. As others said in order to get them back perfect just buy some news ones.
I hate to tell you......but, you'll notice mine's an '04.....just a bit older than yours..........and, now that you mention it, they (the lenses) DID seem to go down hill somewhat quickly over the past year and a half.........so, mark this thread as a "favourite"! :-)
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I hate to tell you......but, you'll notice mine's an '04.....just a bit older than yours..........
Same vintage as yours. I put on the lamin-x protectors when the car was new, and the protector and lense still look like they did back on '04

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I hate to tell you......but, you'll notice mine's an '04.....just a bit older than yours..........and, now that you mention it, they (the lenses) DID seem to go down hill somewhat quickly over the past year and a half.........so, mark this thread as a "favourite"! :-)
I have an 04 and an 05.. parking in the garage has probably helped prolong the life of mine though.. no extreme exposure to the sun
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Same vintage as yours. I put on the lamin-x protectors when the car was new, and the protector and lense still look like they did back on '04
EXCELLENT!

That's what I was thinking I'd do when I buy my new ones next week.

Did you apply the LaminX yourself? Is it difficult? Can you buy it in small quantities? (just enough for two headlights?)
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Did you apply the LaminX yourself? Is it difficult? Can you buy it in small quantities? (just enough for two headlights?)
Difficult? Depends on your skill level of course. I consider myself an advanced DIY'er. Did my own clear bra and window tint. Of the three the Lamin-x was by far the easiest.

Comes precut, so the hard part is done for you.

http://www.lamin-x.com/BMW-E46-Sedan...ers-p/b011.htm

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