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Old 07-08-2013, 07:51 PM   #1
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swirls

I have a sapphire black 325 ci and I've been considering getting the car detailed to remove swirls and such. I've taken it to 3 shops. 2 of them told me the swirls would re-appear in a few months and 1 guy said they would not come back. Who is right?

Heres and example of the swirls on the trunk. Thanks for any info.

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Old 07-08-2013, 08:56 PM   #2
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A good dual action buffer with a polishing compound should do the trick. I've got Wolfgangs swirl remover and just removed all the swirls from my trunk this afternoon... Also make sure you have the right pad to go with your buffer

DIY, it'll cost the same or less and you can do it again in the future and save cash. Don't be afraid to try if you haven't done it... Today was my first time ever and I'm more than pleased with the results!
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:15 PM   #3
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Well, I'm certainly no expert, but my guess is that the time it would take to come back, is going to depend on how you care for your freshly-detailed car. I imagine certain washing products and techniques probably lend to more swirl marks than others. But, that's speculation, so I'll gladly let someone with more experience chime in while I sit back and take notes!
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:31 PM   #4
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If you drive or touch the car you will scratch it over time. There are plenty of techniques to minimize swirls and scratches while washing. Unless its a show car, I recommend polishing once a year, using a clay car twice a year and washing when you want. Just make sure you use proper rinse less wash or two bucket wash technique.

The base coat, clear coat system is scratch sensitive. It's unavoidable if you use the car.
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Old 07-08-2013, 10:53 PM   #5
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To answer your question "who's right?", all three might be right. The first two guys you talked to might just use a glaze which is full of fillers to hide these defects, the third guy might properly polish out the defects. The use of glaze to hide these swirls will eventually wear/wash off and they'll be back, maybe after two or ten washes that is kind of an unknown. If you have it properly polished out by using a good clear coat safe compound and/or polish they'll actually be removed and not come back. If you don't maintain/ wash the car properly they will come back but not these same marks (which are hard to see in the pic and actually look like buffer trails from an improper polish) but new "different" swirls will appear. Black is a full time chore to maintain.

If you want to pay someone to do it go back to the third guy and ask/tell him exactly what you asked about here, ask him what products he'd use and confirm he's not going to use a glaze to hide the swirls. The cost of one good detail is the same if not more than buying your own dual action polisher, various pads, compound and polish if your so inclined and is quite rewarding. Take a look at the forum sponsor's page for ideas.

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:45 AM   #6
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To answer your question "who's right?", all three might be right. The first two guys you talked to might just use a glaze which is full of fillers to hide these defects, the third guy might properly polish out the defects. The use of glaze to hide these swirls will eventually wear/wash off and they'll be back, maybe after two or ten washes that is kind of an unknown. If you have it properly polished out by using a good clear coat safe compound and/or polish they'll actually be removed and not come back. If you don't maintain/ wash the car properly they will come back but not these same marks (which are hard to see in the pic and actually look like buffer trails from an improper polish) but new "different" swirls will appear. Black is a full time chore to maintain.

If you want to pay someone to do it go back to the third guy and ask/tell him exactly what you asked about here, ask him what products he'd use and confirm he's not going to use a glaze to hide the swirls. The cost of one good detail is the same if not more than buying your own dual action polisher, various pads, compound and polish if your so inclined and is quite rewarding. Take a look at the forum sponsor's page for ideas.

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Those are definitely buffer trails or holograms left from improper use of a rotary buffer. They are probably over the entire car.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:59 AM   #7
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Interesting - didn't know glazes only hid defects... that's lame. I clayed, polished (swirl remover), glazed, waxed....
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:53 PM   #8
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Great info, thanks for the replies
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