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Old 07-12-2013, 06:11 PM   #21
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I'll certainly be interested to know if this fixes the problem for you. I suspect it's probably a combination of factors... something our cars have and the fuel. Otherwise everyone would be complaining about the Caltex 98 (which used to be fine in our golf). If the Shell 98 doesn't help, in the interest of science maybe try the BP?
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #22
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I've used nothing but Shell V-Power 98 from the day I bought my car. Its also had a few bottles of Liqui Moly fuel injection cleaner. Some say its snake oil, I'd say I think that stuff actually helped smoothed things out a bit. Shove a bottle of that in as well, you can get it at supercheap

http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/products/fuel-additives/
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:21 PM   #23
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Fuel injector cleaner is one of the only anything-additives that actually does something.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:54 PM   #24
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OK, I've refilled with almost a full tank of Shell V-Power 98. Took it for a bit of a burn to start getting the V-Power circulating. Will see how it goes this week! Wish me luck...

I'll also look into getting some of that fuel system cleaner stuff too. What is the difference between the Liqui Moly FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER / CONDITIONER and Liqui Moly FUEL INJECTION CLEANER?
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:46 PM   #25
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Not sure, but I'd try the just the injector cleaner first. Seems as though it actually seemed to make the car run a bit smoother/more responsive. I put 2 cans in over 2 separate fills. Whack it in with your full tank of Vpower
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:27 PM   #26
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hey mate, did you fix the problem? i had the same problem. i replaced all my plugs & ran a bottle of injector cleaner and problem was gone. i had a mechanic look over it and it was either #1 dirty injectors #2 coils #3 plugs
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:30 AM   #27
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hey mate, did you fix the problem? i had the same problem. i replaced all my plugs & ran a bottle of injector cleaner and problem was gone. i had a mechanic look over it and it was either #1 dirty injectors #2 coils #3 plugs
I only put V-Power 98 in it yesterday, so still too soon to tell. I plan to pick up some injector cleaner tomorrow as well and pop it in. I will know during this week if it has made a difference.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:36 PM   #28
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Im keen to here about this. As I've experience the same problem as well. I've change my Head Gasket Valve rubber (was missing a corner of it) thinking that this could of cause the problem. But I've had it happen a couple of times but can't remember what fuel I was using. There's a BP, Shell, Apco and Caltex all close to home.

Located in Geelong so not all that big of a town.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:56 PM   #29
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Mid-week update:

Car has started perfectly from cold every time so far this week! Still a very slight wobble on idle when cold (which I think has actually smoothened out compared to before) but it has not stalled immediately like my video shows.

All I have done is stopped filling with Caltex 98 and instead filled with Shell V-Power 98, and poured in a can of Liqui Moly Fuel Injection Cleaner two days later.

If the car continues to behave for the rest of this week then there is definitely something about Caltex 98 which my E46 does not agree with!! The Liqui Moly perhaps helped abit as well.

Will continue to monitor how it goes for the rest of this week.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:09 PM   #30
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Run it to empty again, give it another full tank of Vpower and at the same time add another can of Liqui-Moly injection cleaner. That should sort it...
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #31
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Thanks for the update. I'm glad I've (hopefully) helped and glad that I'm not the only one (nor going crazy)! I haven't run injector cleaner through but may after some of the comments here.

I wonder why some people have no problem with Caltex 98 and we do... whether it's that we're both in Brisbane (same fuel), or something wrong with our cars? I tried googling for it a while back and it didn't seem to be common at all. Anyway, as long as it's resolved, that's the main thing!
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:22 PM   #32
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Thanks for the update. I'm glad I've (hopefully) helped and glad that I'm not the only one (nor going crazy)! I haven't run injector cleaner through but may after some of the comments here.

I wonder why some people have no problem with Caltex 98 and we do... whether it's that we're both in Brisbane (same fuel), or something wrong with our cars? I tried googling for it a while back and it didn't seem to be common at all. Anyway, as long as it's resolved, that's the main thing!
Yeah, thanks for your help!

It still beats me why it should matter though, and why our cars should be so sensitive to it, coz it shouldn't be.

Which Caltex service station did you fill up at?
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:39 PM   #33
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Which Caltex service station did you fill up at?
Caltex Woolworths Mitchelton. I don't know of any Shell's nearby so figured you probably use a different Caltex?
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:09 AM   #34
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Caltex Woolworths Mitchelton. I don't know of any Shell's nearby so figured you probably use a different Caltex?
Haha, yeah - Caltex Kenmore for me
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:09 PM   #35
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One week update:

Still continues to start perfectly fine when cold whilst on V-Power 98. The previous symptom as shown in the video would have surely occurred by now. I'm sticking with V-Power!! Still beats me why it would be so different though, but whatever works works.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:01 AM   #36
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That's a good result.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:20 AM   #37
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I would go with MAF or ignition coils. Have the coils ever been replaced?
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:54 AM   #38
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One week update:

Still continues to start perfectly fine when cold whilst on V-Power 98. The previous symptom as shown in the video would have surely occurred by now. I'm sticking with V-Power!! Still beats me why it would be so different though, but whatever works works.
could be more that the injector cleaner has done its job,and seeing your video our cars both have similar k's on the clock so I will be trying some of that injector cleaner to see if that fixes my cold wobbly idle,incidentally,changing the subject,did you ever fix your dynavin problem?,if I remember correctly you had some sort of wiring issues with it a while back.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:47 AM   #39
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could be more that the injector cleaner has done its job,and seeing your video our cars both have similar k's on the clock so I will be trying some of that injector cleaner to see if that fixes my cold wobbly idle,incidentally,changing the subject,did you ever fix your dynavin problem?,if I remember correctly you had some sort of wiring issues with it a while back.
I was running V-Power 98 for two days before I poured the injector cleaner in, and in those two days it also started up fine from cold. So who knows...probably a combination of both? I'll just stick with V-Power as Shell is equally as convenient from my place as Caltex is and they take the discount vouchers from Coles.

I never fixed the Dynavin problem, kinda gave up after I took it to a reputable car stereo shop and their solution was half baked and wasn't really what I was comfortable with. But if a local Dynavin & E46 expert who knows exactly what to do offers his/her help to get it working for me, then I'm certainly all ears!
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:19 AM   #40
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My car had the exact same problem as yours for quite some time. Every now and then it would stall when I tried to start and the whole car would wobble around while idling.

I would say with certainly it's time to replace your camshaft position sensors. Do both the exhaust and intake sensors, pelican parts has them for really cheap. You can do it yourself quite quickly, though access can be a pain. Do this before you spend money on anything else.
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