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Old 07-06-2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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Anybody in WA state able to help with VANOS seals?

Hello fellas, I was wondering if anyone in Western Washington was planning on doing the vanos seals on their car this summer and wouldn't mind if I did mine side by side. I have some tools but not enough and no place to do the repair so looking for a little help from a fellow member.

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Old 07-07-2013, 12:17 AM   #2
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Re: Anybody in WA state able to help with VANOS seals?

Just finished remounting the vanos about an hour ago after doing this. This is definitely a job that seems more intimidating than it really is. The only problem I had was needing to go buy a set of angle nose pliers to get the cap out of the exhaust side cylinder. If you've done the valve cover gasket before you can handle this. Just print out the instructions from Besian and go for it. :-)

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Old 07-07-2013, 04:24 PM   #3
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I've done this before. I do all my own work. Have all the tools too. If you want you can come over to Sequim on a weekend and I'll walk you through it. lmk
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:53 PM   #4
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Hey I appreciate the offer very much Titanium, Sequim is just a 2 hour drive for me. If no one closer is able to help, I will probably have to come out there!
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Hi dirtypinguin! Are you anywhere close Redmond?
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:48 AM   #6
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Sure. 30 minutes away
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:39 PM   #7
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Anybody in WA state able to help with VANOS seals?

I'm doing mine in the next two weeks, Seattle area, group job?


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Old 08-07-2013, 03:16 PM   #8
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I don't know how well my VANOS is holding up, but if others are doing it as a preventative thing, I may do mine as well to learn more. Are there other recommended things to replace while doing the VANOS?
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The vanos system on these cars seems to wear out within 50k miles. My car has an uneven delivery of power below 3k RPM's. Its quite annoying and I have close to 90k on my engine, so its definitely time to address this issue. Here is the kit I bought and they describe the various symptoms you may be having due to worn out seals in the Vanos system.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:44 AM   #10
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You can also just go with a Dr. Vanos kit which saves you some time versus doing the seals yourself once you pull the vanos out. It is twice the cost however. http://drvanos.com/index.php?option=...&id=2&Itemid=3
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So the Dr Vanos kit is basically a new Vanos with the improved seals while the Beisan kit just has the new seals and you re-use the rest of the Vanos? I imagine the rest of the Vanos doesn't deteriorate as much, so is there a reason to go with the Dr Vanos kit? I don't mind spending an extra $200, I just want to know if it'll be well spent....

I don't have any of the hiccuping or non-linear throttle response, but I reckon I've got a little bit of torque degradation at low RPMs and it'd be good to to the Vanos anyway for peace of mind. Looking through the Beisan DIY, it mentions replacing the VCG, which is a no-brainer, and also playing with the O2 sensors. Should one replace these as well while disassembling everything?

If people are serious about doing a group DIY on this, I would really love to join, as I don't trust myself enough to do it myself. Would people want to do it the weekend of the 24th so that we can all get the appropriate parts? If so, is the following list correct?
1. Beisan kit or Dr Vanos kit
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:04 PM   #12
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I did not replace the O2 sensors when I did the Beisan Kit. VCG for sure, and I did the oil filter housing gasket (since it appeared to be leaking).
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I did not replace the O2 sensors when I did the Beisan Kit. VCG for sure, and I did the oil filter housing gasket (since it appeared to be leaking).
Is the OFHG not much extra effort while already in there?
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No, it's a job in itself. I was chasing oil leaks so it's one of those items that when you have top of the motor pulled off, just keep going http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=659100
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No, it's a job in itself. I was chasing oil leaks so it's one of those items that when you have top of the motor pulled off, just keep going http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=659100
Ugh, how long did that take you? I might have to do that as well.
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So the Dr Vanos kit is basically a new Vanos with the improved seals while the Beisan kit just has the new seals and you re-use the rest of the Vanos? I imagine the rest of the Vanos doesn't deteriorate as much, so is there a reason to go with the Dr Vanos kit? I don't mind spending an extra $200, I just want to know if it'll be well spent....

I don't have any of the hiccuping or non-linear throttle response, but I reckon I've got a little bit of torque degradation at low RPMs and it'd be good to to the Vanos anyway for peace of mind. Looking through the Beisan DIY, it mentions replacing the VCG, which is a no-brainer, and also playing with the O2 sensors. Should one replace these as well while disassembling everything?

If people are serious about doing a group DIY on this, I would really love to join, as I don't trust myself enough to do it myself. Would people want to do it the weekend of the 24th so that we can all get the appropriate parts? If so, is the following list correct?
1. Beisan kit or Dr Vanos kit
2. VCG
3. (optional) O2 sensors
The Dr. Vanos is a rebuilt unit with the better seals and the rattle fix. You send your old one back to them. Its an extra hour or two after you pull the vanos off to replace the seals yourself if you go the beisan route. As for the other things to replace along the way, I just got everything that Beisan recommends on their website.
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The Dr. Vanos is a rebuilt unit with the better seals and the rattle fix. You send your old one back to them. Its an extra hour or two after you pull the vanos off to replace the seals yourself if you go the beisan route. As for the other things to replace along the way, I just got everything that Beisan recommends on their website.
Ok, I'll go for the other recommended parts as well, may as well do so. I think I may go the Dr Vanos route to cut down on time and fix the rattle (haven't heard it yet, but may as well pre-empt it...).

How many people would be willing and able to do Saturday the 24th?
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Hey I'm not going to be able to do it on the 24th. But lets pick another weekend to do it on.
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