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Old 08-14-2013, 01:18 PM   #1
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Remote For Hidden AV Cabinet

AV pros, I'd like to know how you deal with the issue of having AV equipment (cable, dvd, receiver) in a closed cabinet.

I'm thinking of a universal remote, but I had a pretty bad experience with a Logitech about 5 years ago where it just was not working well with some of the minor functions of the receiver (changing the volume of individual speakers, etc).

Can anybody recommend a remote extender or a good (under $500) universal remote that does not need a PHD from MIT to program? Any other solutions?

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MX850 + RF Base or Xantech IR Repeater.
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:16 AM   #3
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MX850 + RF Base or Xantech IR Repeater.
Question regarding this and similar universal remotes:

Will this allow me to access something like individual channel volumes on my amp?

My issue is that for some reason, my amp always powers up with too high a volume on my side channels and too low a vol on the center (regardless of the sound effect I have it set to). So i'm forced to always adjust side channels down and center up every time I power it up. Can I access these type of actions with this remote or is it simple power, vol, etc functions?

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MX-850 is a professional remote.
Consumers can't even buy it (in theory)

It can do anything. ANYTHING.

The screen at the top changes for each device (4 pages for each device) so you have 10x4 extra buttons you can label anything you want for each device. (slow, track, etc.)

You could even put TV channels there to tune directly into them (FOX, ABC, HBO 1, HBO 2, etc.)

You can use discrete codes so it spits out commands like ON and OFF not POWER.

This makes your macros work better. If the TV is on, it wont shut off when you hit "DVD" if you were watching cable since it says "TV ON" not "TV POWER"

Often you can use codes to make the remote do things the original could not even do.

For example, instead of toggling through sources, you have a button for DVD, a button for CD, etc.

Mine has separate controls for subwoofer, left, right, etc.

You can learn any button do anything. It can learn directly from your remote.

You can remove buttons you don't use. etc.

It is not a Harmony type remote.

It is simple looking but extremely flexible/powerful.

Mine can control any TV in the house, my lights, my security cameras, my media server, etc along with all three of my centrally located cable boxes independently.

It is not the simplest to program, but once you figure it all out, you will NEVER need to upgrade again.

IF YOU BUY IT, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE SOFTWARE AND PROGRAMMING CABLE.

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Old 08-15-2013, 12:05 PM   #5
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction G-Man. I think this remote you speak of may be out of my league in terms of my ability to program it...I will look into it though.
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I understand.

Problem is... basic programming = basic remote.

See if there are some youtube tutorials.

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URC has great remotes, but to be honest, they need to be programmed by a professional. You can buy the remote online...but be prepared to pay a few hundred AT LEAST to have it programmed.

Second point, I think you need another AV reciever OR different speakers (ones that more closely align with eachother on sensitivity/power requirements). You shouldn't need to be adjusting channel level to individual speakers all of the time. I mean, I can understand to a degree the subwoofer depending on the type of audio being listened to, but speakers should be in my opinion a set it and forget it setup if they are properly matched.
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URC has great remotes, but to be honest, they need to be programmed by a professional. You can buy the remote online...but be prepared to pay a few hundred AT LEAST to have it programmed.

Second point, I think you need another AV reciever OR different speakers (ones that more closely align with eachother on sensitivity/power requirements). You shouldn't need to be adjusting channel level to individual speakers all of the time. I mean, I can understand to a degree the subwoofer depending on the type of audio being listened to, but speakers should be in my opinion a set it and forget it setup if they are properly matched.
I adjust my subwoofer level all the time; every channel/show/video game is recorded different.

To each their own I guess.
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URC has great remotes, but to be honest, they need to be programmed by a professional. You can buy the remote online...but be prepared to pay a few hundred AT LEAST to have it programmed.

Second point, I think you need another AV reciever OR different speakers (ones that more closely align with eachother on sensitivity/power requirements). You shouldn't need to be adjusting channel level to individual speakers all of the time. I mean, I can understand to a degree the subwoofer depending on the type of audio being listened to, but speakers should be in my opinion a set it and forget it setup if they are properly matched.
Youre right and after installing everything in the new location, I figured out why the receiver was always defaulting back to the same setting.

Long story short, I may just go with a Logitec type universal with a RF relay. I know this is likely considered junk by the AV pros, but honestly think for my basic set-up, it should suffice. Am I way off on this?

PS, i'll post up some complete pics of the cabinet build and my set up shortly. Im very proud...
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I adjust my subwoofer level all the time.
Same here. I have two settings. One for when the wife is home and another for when she's not
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Youre right and after installing everything in the new location, I figured out why the receiver was always defaulting back to the same setting.

Long story short, I may just go with a Logitec type universal with a RF relay. I know this is likely considered junk by the AV pros, but honestly think for my basic set-up, it should suffice. Am I way off on this?

PS, i'll post up some complete pics of the cabinet build and my set up shortly. Im very proud...
Look for a LEARNING remote vs a universal remote. This allows you to learn the buttons that you need that are not part of basic functions.

If you do a Xantech IR repeating system, it will work with ALL remotes including the original vs RF only working with one remote.

ie - $35 - http://www.amazon.com/URC-MasterCont...earning+remote

ie - $25 - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony---8...&skuId=7689156





Xantech Kit - $115 - http://www.amazon.com/Xantech-DL85K-...ywords=xantech



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Thanks for the suggestions. I didnt realize the URC remotes were so affordable. I may give one of these a shot and see how it goes...
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Thanks for the suggestions. I didnt realize the URC remotes were so affordable. I may give one of these a shot and see how it goes...
The consumer line is. Good quality.

Honestly, I forgot about them.

URC makes a lot of OEM remotes too.
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I adjust my subwoofer level all the time; every channel/show/video game is recorded different.

To each their own I guess.
Did you not read my second sentence. There are many instances where adjusting subwoofer levels are appropriate (Classical Music vs. Star Trek). I was speaking in regards to SPEAKER levels. That (I mean honestly) shouldn't need to be changed all the time.
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Did you not read my second sentence. There are many instances where adjusting subwoofer levels are appropriate (Classical Music vs. Star Trek). I was speaking in regards to SPEAKER levels. That (I mean honestly) shouldn't need to be changed all the time.
I adjust my center channel too.

I understand what you are saying though. No, the average viewer should not be adjusting their levels all the time.

I do use the "stereo" button a lot too. I find many shows sound better in stereo than surround sound. ie - Americas Got Talet, MTV Music Awards, etc.
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UPDATE: I bought the URC RF20, which unfortunately does not work with the new Xfinity X1 box!!!

Does anybody have any experience with the X1 box and universal remotes? Thanks.
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You tried to learn the buttons one by one and it would not work?
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You tried to learn the buttons one by one and it would not work?
Yes. a few work but many do not. Apparently its a known issue w/ the new X1 box.
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Yes. a few work but many do not. Apparently its a known issue w/ the new X1 box.
Try holding the buttons longer. Seriously.

Did you call UR and see if there is a new code?

Try "Cable 195" (everything but power should work.)

PS - It is the box not the remote. Known issues with all remotes.
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Try holding the buttons longer. Seriously.

Did you call UR and see if there is a new code?

Try "Cable 195" (everything but power should work.)

PS - It is the box not the remote. Known issues with all remotes.
I tried cable 195 but i will try holding the buttons longer for the learning mode... Thanks for the help!
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