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Old 08-28-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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Tire pressure sensor question and wheel balance

Ok, I searched and couldn't find my answer. My 2001 325it doesn't have the tire sensor option. I want to run a set of wheels off of a 2013 328I. They have the tire pressure sensors. Question: Can the wheels be run without the sensors and will they balance ok? Here is MY thinking... I would think that a wheel that is designed to run the tire pressure sensors would have some built in counter weight opposite of the sensor. Am I ALL wrong?

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Old 08-28-2013, 12:21 PM   #2
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you can use them just fine. there is nothing special about the wheels.

If you are buying new tires, you might as well remove the sensors and try to sell them. I'm sure someone would buy them for a winter setup on their f30.

Edit: the wheels are different in that they are designed to have a space to put the sensor module, but as far as weighting and what not it will not affect your ability to balance the tires.

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Old 08-28-2013, 02:07 PM   #3
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you can use them just fine. there is nothing special about the wheels.

If you are buying new tires, you might as well remove the sensors and try to sell them. I'm sure someone would buy them for a winter setup on their f30.

Edit: the wheels are different in that they are designed to have a space to put the sensor module, but as far as weighting and what not it will not affect your ability to balance the tires.
What is a FAIR price for me and the buyer for a full set of the tire sensors?
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What is a FAIR price for me and the buyer for a full set of the tire sensors?
No idea actually. I would call tire rack and find out how much they charge and then go with 75% off that # for used genuine bmw ones.

Again, this is only if you are replacing the rubber, which I assume you are since the f30 tires are significantly different from the e46 sizes.

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Nothing really changes with the wheels themselves, but having the sensors in there is not going to do you any good. As tachi mentioned, just remove them and sell them.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:36 PM   #6
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Nothing really changes with the wheels themselves, but having the sensors in there is not going to do you any good. As tachi mentioned, just remove them and sell them.
The wheels I am looking at have brand new tires on them. They are a take off set from a new 2013, never on the road. By the time I pay to dismount each tire, remove the sensors and then re-balance the tires, I am not making much to nothing for selling the sensors.
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The wheels I am looking at have brand new tires on them. They are a take off set from a new 2013, never on the road. By the time I pay to dismount each tire, remove the sensors and then re-balance the tires, I am not making much to nothing for selling the sensors.
This is why I mentioned buying new rubber. It is definitely not worth the cost to get them dismounted. I have a set of tire pressure monitors stuck inside a snow setup I just bought. It's not worth taking the tires off due to the costs.

However, I do not believe the any of the tire sizes on the f30 fit the e46 meaning you can't use those tires (side wall is too tall). If you're lucky, you can sell the tires and sensors for enough to buy new tires in the correct size.

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Exactly what model and trim line f30 are these coming off of? And what are the tire sizes?

Edit: if they are coming off a 2013 base model coupe then they will probably fit. In which case the wheels should already be balanced so just throw them on your car.

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F30 and E46 offsets are actually similar, however the tire sizing is different. The 19" option for instance is a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19, which is one profile too tall.
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F30 and E46 offsets are actually similar, however the tire sizing is different. The 19" option for instance is a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19, which is one profile too tall.
All 3 sizes (17, 18, &19) of the f30 are one profile too tall. Which makes sense to keep the tire diameter the same on all wheel sizes.

If they are coming off an e92 coupe though the tires should be fine, which I'm hoping is where the wheels are coming from or else op is going to have some tires to sell.

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Yeah, the E92 tire sizing is going to be the same, but the F30 sizing is one profile too large.
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The tires on the new wheels are 225-50-17. Mine are 225-45-17. Doesn't seem to be much height difference.
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I just looked up a tire size and aspect ratio to height calculator.
My 225/45-17 is approximately 24.97 inched tall
A 225/59-17 is approximately 25.86 inches tall The difference in height is .89 inches or .445 inches on each side. So do you guys think that they will be too tall? The setback on both rims are about the same.

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I just looked up a tire size and aspect ratio to height calculator.
My 225/45-17 is approximately 24.97 inched tall
A 225/59-17 is approximately 25.86 inches tall The difference in height is .89 inches or .445 inches on each side. So do you guys think that they will be too tall? The setback on both rims are about the same.
Yes, too tall. That's almost an inch larger. It can mess with your abs and traction control not to mention your speedometer will always be low.

Sell the tires and the pressure sensors and hopefully you can get enough to buy a set of tires that fit the car. Next time be sure to check the tire sizes before you buy.

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Tire pressure sensor question and wheel balance

Going from 225/45/17 to 225/50/17 isn't too drastic.

In the rear, I run 245/45/17 instead of the 40 profile, which fills out the well better. Speedometer is off a little I'm sure but it's nothing drastic like over/under 5mph.
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Yes, too tall. That's almost an inch larger. It can mess with your abs and traction control not to mention your speedometer will always be low.

Sell the tires and the pressure sensors and hopefully you can get enough to buy a set of tires that fit the car. Next time be sure to check the tire sizes before you buy.

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I just looked up a tire size and aspect ratio to height calculator.
My 225/45-17 is approximately 24.97 inched tall
A 225/59-17 is approximately 25.86 inches tall The difference in height is .89 inches or .445 inches on each side. So do you guys think that they will be too tall? The setback on both rims are about the same.
Yes, it is too tall. I would recommend replacing the tires with the correct profile if you decide to buy them.
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Okay... Thanks. I'll see if that is a viable option. The tires on my car now are near new. I just didn't want to hassle trying to sell a set of tires I can't use.
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