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Old 06-25-2013, 10:43 AM   #1
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Advice on Removing Stains on Imola Leather Interior

Hey guys, I purchased my M3 about 3 weeks ago and the interior was flawless when I originally viewed the car. It was the day after the PPI at a local BMW dealership that I noticed these small, black, embedded grease/ink-like stains on the passenger seat. I've tried removing the stains with Meguiars leather cleaner/conditioner and even IPA but with no apparent effect on the stain. Can you guys recommend a best course of action to get these stains out, thanks.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:10 AM   #2
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Leather Master Super Remover - (may be used on (A-Aniline / Non-Coated as a spot remover, always check for colourfastness) for removing deep stains like mustard on protected finished leathers. This product works, even when nothing else will.

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Old 06-26-2013, 09:47 PM   #3
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Leather Master Super Remover - (may be used on (A-Aniline / Non-Coated as a spot remover, always check for colourfastness) for removing deep stains like mustard on protected finished leathers. This product works, even when nothing else will.
Do you have personal experience with this product working?
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:36 PM   #4
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What have you tried? I suggest gliptone for cleaning nappa leather. I would try their cleaner with a soft brush that won't scratch the leather (a used toothbrush for example).

Also search autogeek.com on their website and forum, you'll get better answers.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:34 PM   #5
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What have you tried? I suggest gliptone for cleaning nappa leather. I would try their cleaner with a soft brush that won't scratch the leather (a used toothbrush for example).

Also search autogeek.com on their website and forum, you'll get better answers.
I've only tried Meguiars leather cleaner and some IPA, Meguiars was applied with a microfiber towel with no effect and the Isopropyl Alcohol, rubbing alcohol basically, was applied with a Q-tip, again no difference was observed. Thanks for your suggestions though.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:16 AM   #6
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Do you have personal experience with this product working?
I have five decades of detailing experience and 10 years of answering detailing questions on various international forums.

I only recommend what I have first-hand experience of and products that 'do as they say on the tin'



TOGWT Autopia Detailing Wiki - "Proper Finished Leather Cleaning and Care" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...ning-care.html


TOGWT Autopia Detailing Wiki - "Leather Articles Hyperlinks" -http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia-detailing-wiki/141973-leather-articles-hyperlinks.html

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:31 AM   #7
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Okay guys, thanks for the answers, will definitely look into them and let you know what works.
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Years ago I posted a similar question on another forum about removing pen ink stains from leather. An answer I received was that hairspray would remove it. I tried it and it worked on the grey leather seats in my Buick GS. Your results may vary.
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:12 AM   #9
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Years ago I posted a similar question on another forum about removing pen ink stains from leather. An answer I received was that hairspray would remove it. I tried it and it worked on the grey leather seats in my Buick GS. Your results may vary.
Hairspray contains solvents, which may remove ink stains - not recommended for finished leather uphostery as its a product formulated for hair :0
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:14 AM   #10
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That looks exactly like my passenger seat with those stains.
Mine were caused by a leaking dimmable rear view mirror, the "juice" ate through my center console and splashed on my passenger seat.
I have tried most every product, and wives tales to remove with no luck.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:50 PM   #11
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I haven't tried anything extreme, but I went to a well known, professional detail shop in Burbank and he advised me that there is no way to remove the ink without removing the dye of the finished imola red leather. He recommended a leather expert in Van Nuys called Snow Vinyl who he swears was able to remove stains and perfectly match the dye of the finished red leather on a Porsche 911 for one of his clients. He said the typical charge for this service would be ~$200. I haven't followed up with this yet but their website looks promising and this alternative beats the ~$1000 for new OEM seat covers.
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I haven't tried anything extreme, but I went to a well known, professional detail shop in Burbank and he advised me that there is no way to remove the ink without removing the dye of the finished imola red leather. He recommended a leather expert in Van Nuys called Snow Vinyl who he swears was able to remove stains and perfectly match the dye of the finished red leather on a Porsche 911 for one of his clients. He said the typical charge for this service would be ~$200. I haven't followed up with this yet but their website looks promising and this alternative beats the ~$1000 for new OEM seat covers.
Did you follow TOGWT's recommendation? He may not be well known here, but he is an absolute authority when it comes to detailing. If he says a product may work, try it before you decide the problem cannot be remedied. Just because a local detailer says it cannot be done does not mean it cannot be done.

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Old 08-11-2013, 05:01 AM   #13
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Okay, I purchased the item recommended by TOGWT and will keep you guys posted on the results, wish me luck!
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Okay, I purchased the item recommended by TOGWT and will keep you guys posted on the results, wish me luck!
Be sure to use something after Super Remover, it does strip.
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Be sure to use something after Super Remover, it does strip.
I bought everything recommended including the cleaner and conditioner so I should be good to go when the package arrives, will keep you guys posted.
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Okay, received Leather Master Super Remover, followed directions and applied exactly as stated, made no visible difference on the stain whatsoever so I guess that proves that the detailer's suggestion is the only valid solution.
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Yes hair spray can easily remove ink from leather. Hair spray contains alcohol, which is the ingredient that removes the ink, but the other chemicals in the spray could damage a fabric. Caution is very important while using the Hair Spray as ink removal.
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Try using a stiff brush (not damaging, but enough given to scrub) and a light cleaner like Leathermaster Pristine Clean.
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u sure your mirror isn't leaking the acid inside of it?
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Sadly the prognosis on your ink stains or colour transfer on leather is not good; as the stain permeates the leather, the dye is transferred and body heat helps to 'set the dye, For this reason it is not easily released, especially as it has been allowed to set.

Because modern leather coatings are water-based, inks and dyes no longer sit on the surface, but absorb into the clear protective lacquer. Therefore the only way to remove the stain is to remove this clear lacquer and re-apply a pigmented coating


Swisswax Leather Healer Leather Dye - an easy-to-apply Leather refurbishing dye, it Is easy to apply and sets automatically and permanently, without leaving a heavy layer of pigments as often encountered with other leather tinting. The purpose of this product is to restore leather to its original colour and with uniform matte finish, but without a "just been painted" appearance.

Urethane Protection Top Coat

OEM finished leather typically has a matte clear coat to provide abrasion resistance and to protect them from ultra violet (UV-B) light, so it's important to replace this finish as it protects and enhances the leather and preserves its durability.

This clear coat
(Leather Magic DT-70 Matte Finish Clear) is water- based, polyurethane compound that will provide the toughest finish over a repaired area. The clear coat may be applied either by wiping or spraying over a surface and creates a pleasing matte finish over a colour coated surface to provide substantial protection and durability

Allow the pigmentation to cure for 24 hours before the application of the clear coat. Apply with a clean lint free 100% cotton micro fibre towel, being careful to apply a two thin uniform coats (allow each coat to thoroughly dry) to reduce build-up and streaks, allow to dry for 24 -36 hours; dependent upon temperature and humidity. This type of clear paint can be 'heat cured' with infra-red heat, a heat gun or a hair dryer



TOGWT Autopia Detailing Wiki Article - "Leather pigment (Dye) restoration" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...ml#post1488560

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