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Old 07-07-2013, 10:28 PM   #241
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Jake iirc Mert ran his 4.23s in one gear with a big shot of NOS and somewhere over 1000rwhp
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:31 PM   #242
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:34 PM   #243
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Jake,

I made 997 whp on Dynamics in 2009 this is like 1150 whp on dyno jet.

4 years of R&D passed and today my setup is improved.

on the 4,23 run I ve spayed a 100 shot and went through 1 gear. 3500-9000 rpm.
the area between 3500 till 5000 rpm was not powerful. needed nitrous.

today will go through 3 gears just like gtr35 where I will use 5700 + rpms. This is using the strongest parrts of the power band.

today I got automatic transmission which shifts so fast that you cannot identify gear shifts.
boost does not even drop 1 psi during gear shifts, stays solid.

all Wheel drive is programmable, at which road speed do you want it to be on?

how much torque do you want to transfer to the fronts?

So I am able to play around the all Wheel settings. thats a very very powerful tool.

on our road test with the XM3 a man came by the fuel station and asked about the air lifter.
he thought we were lifting front tires with an air lifter.
In fact the XM3 dead hooks and front tires almost lift off the ground.

Now working on this subject.

Jake, 5,2 to 5,6 seconds 60-130 is a sweat spot for a well prepared E46 M3.

to go below 5 is where the diffculties start.

to go below 4 is where you have to optimize the M3 seriously.

to go below 3,5 is where you have to master on M3, this is what I aim for.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:37 PM   #244
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Mert you really think you can get to under 3 seconds?
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:07 AM   #245
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Mert you really think you can get to under 3 seconds?
I do not know but I hope / work and pray each day. I pray God to enable me.

With all Wheel drive and automatic transmission 3,5 seconds is not difficult to attain.

To go sub 3,5 s more power will be needed.

To go 2,8-2,9 seconds, I need to push S54 B35 a lot.

well, there are good news.

when I went 4,23 s boost pressure was 32-33 psi.

I hear that big boys like big supras, and big gtrs are boosting 60 psi. Some of the supras go as high as 90 psi but this is not shared over public forums.

The supras rev 10.500 rpm as well..

I saw 60 psi on forums, but the 90 psi info came from a serious supplier

my plan is to raise boost from 33 psi to 45 psi and see what goes on.

If the system all together goes well, will test 50 psi.

55 psi

60 psi

65 psi and see what happens.

I may need to change turbochargers to boost 60 psi

So when I aim under 3 s, I did some calculations.

There is so much left in it.

btw keep 5 sets of S54 pistons on my shelf at my room. Ready for diasasters

To answer your question: I have dreams and plans and pray God each day to make my dreams come through.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:14 AM   #246
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Re: All Wheel Drive E46 M3

Wow... I cannot wait to see videos of this thing!

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Old 07-23-2013, 06:43 PM   #247
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E46 M3 front fenders and hood installed on XM3.

Room for 245 tires.

Intercooler was taller, shortened the cooler as we are using methanol.

Some of the methanol cars do not even have an intercooler.


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Old 07-24-2013, 10:37 AM   #248
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Good stuff Mert. You are likeable when you don't post junk.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:34 AM   #250
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How's the car going Mert?
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #251
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I ve been working on E36 M3 Euro TT at the same time.
E36 M3 has small details and we stopped working on XM3 till we see 3,7- 3,8 s 60-130 with E36 M3 TT.


New 295 tires turned out to be much wider than Hoosier 295s..



New tires wont fit, decided to test 315 MT ET Street IIs.





road tests







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First road test of E36 M3 Euro TT

Tested new setup.

With very rich AFR 10,2-10,4 & 29 psi of boost pressure:

60-100 mph 1,87 seconds. We have very good traction.

My old 4,23 s 60-130 run had 2,40 s 60-100 mph time.

The new setup improved 60-100 mph by 0,53 s.

Tested new tires and 6 speed automatic transmission.

Sub 2 seconds 60-100 mph indicates 3,xx seconds 60-130.

Was not able to hit 130 mph, but old records show 1,75 s 100-130 mph.

Hope to see 60-130 mph in 1,87 + 1,75 = 3,62 seconds in the coming days.

100-190 km/h 3,07 seconds.

29 psi is "soft" boost, raise it 45 psi and test
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The E36 M3 TT made us heavily focus on it as I the 1,87 s 60-100 mile time is an indication of sub 4 seconds 60-130 mph.

I hope to see 3,7 - 3,8 s 60-130 with my E36 M3 in 15 days and then put it on hold and road test XM3.

If RWD M3 will see sub 4 this means ALL WHEEL DRIVE M3 has to go sub 3 seconds 60-130...
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:10 PM   #252
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:48 PM   #253
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update? lets see some vids of some sub 3 sec 60-130!!
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:22 PM   #255
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update? lets see some vids of some sub 3 sec 60-130!!
We focussed on E36 M3 Euro TT for the last 45 days.

It cut a 1,87 s 60-100 mph time all day long. This time encourages me as it is a sign of sub 4 sec run.

Wanted to improve traction further, tested different tires, could not improve traction with the new tires.

Been testing various parts on this car. Cooling system is upgraded. Brakes are upgraded.......

Now our team is on holiday for two weeks. Once we come back from holiday we will try to get a 3,6-3,7 s 60-130 with the RWD E36 M3 Euro. We are just about to see these times


Regarding XM3, we put it aside to focus on E36 M3 TT.
I am very excited to test it as well. Plans are to road test All Wheel Drive M3 in November. In fact the day I see 3,6-3,7 s 60-130 mph with E36 M3, I ll start road testing XM3. It did hook very good on 225 tires as I stated before. Now wider rubber is on XM3 along with upgraded turbochargers.

Been testing launch control with pectel on XM3 as well. This does not take a long time, but needs practice and short tests. Despite the new bigger chargers I am able to build 12 psi at idle....


Regarding videos, bought a VBOX L***305;te camera system with 2 cameras.
It will Show the test and also the speedo, the boost pressure.
Add to that two more cameras of Chase Cam. In total 4 cams will capture these tests.
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Regarding videos, bought a VBOX L***305;te camera system with 2 cameras.
It will Show the test and also the speedo, the boost pressure.
Add to that two more cameras of Chase Cam. In total 4 cams will capture these tests.
So you finally have a vbox with cameras in your possession??

Woohoo, please make a new thread titled: Mert delivers the goods haha
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Ooooooh now this is getting interesting. Btw I have mentioned this before but I love your e36! I am excited to see some footage of these runs. You can officially become the king of forums and BMW. Whether anybody likes you or not! Lol


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thats ridiculous. 1.87 seconds on rwd. It does make me wonder if your getting 'great traction' on the rwd that awd will be similar based on driveline losses correct?
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:26 PM   #259
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So you finally have a vbox with cameras in your possession??

Woohoo, please make a new thread titled: Mert delivers the goods haha
Its in Florida at my friend's house, 6 pallets full of parts waiting to be shipped to Turkey next week.

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thats ridiculous. 1.87 seconds on rwd. It does make me wonder if your getting 'great traction' on the rwd that awd will be similar based on driveline losses correct?
Answers are unknown.

My E36 M3 Euro TT has been hooking "very good" since day 1.
On the other hand my E46 M3 Coupe TT has never hooked as good as my E36 M3.
Do I know the reason? To be honest NO. Thought about it, but could not find the answers.

E36 M3 cut 1,87 s 60-100 mph without extensive tests.
New set up & first test day we saw 1,87 s.

A new custom made E36 M3 coil over is in Florida, will be here 10 days later. The new coil over kit may help to improve traction.

Moreover, I have not played around traction control settings. I think I can play with the traction control settings and improve traction. Parameters need to be changed.

Moreover, Aeromotions wing is sitting on the shelf, wing will be tested as well, may improve traction.

Moreover, 1,87 s 60-100 was made on 3 year old tires, which saw at least 100heating cooling cycles. 4 different sets of tires are in Florida on pallet, will be tested, they may improve traction.

My dream / goal is to cut 1,6 s 60-100 mph with the RWD M3 all day long, not just 1 time, 20 times, 40 times. I think there is room for the E36 M3 to cut 1,6 s 60-100 mph.


All Wheel Drive M3 will be pushed more, by boosting higher / spraying n20.
XM3 has a 3500 cc 11,5 CR S54.
I do plan on using a 3700 cc S54 on XM3.

XM3 has higher drivetrain losses but also more power / more torque.

If all go well, XM3 should cut 1,3-1,4 s 60-100 mph. I need to test and see.
But if the overall all Wheel drive system Works, it should be faster than
E36 M3.

Time will tell, both M3s will be extensively tested before the end of year. For each of my M3s there is one Word document, i.e "XM3 PROGRAM". These documents are full of plans, parts to be produced, parts to get produced such as pistons and rods, spare parts in case of failure.... As we test each step, I put either a positive or negative sign next to it. E36 M3 TT, XM3 E46 M3 TT, E46 M3 T, E36 M3 TT dakar, four long documents....
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