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Old 08-25-2013, 08:23 PM   #1
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AA stage 1 Questions (330ZHP)

Ive decided to pull the trigger and enter the FI scene. After a lot of research i have decided that the AA kit is the best fit for my application.

I was hoping some of the regular FI junkies around here or AA staff/reps would know if there are any promotions either going on or about to start up within the next month.

Due to the lack of tools i own at school, my installation options are very limited as i dont trust 99% of shops. I prefer to do all the work myself so my current plan is to drive about 4-5 hours to my brothers so we can use his tools and garage.

The problem I have is with the ECU. since I am a FI noob i figured I would ask anyway. Is it possible to drive the car without any chance of damage or problems with hurting the kit 4-5 hours on the highway, with the supercharger tune on the stock engine, or the supercharger install on the stock ecu.

the drive would be 4-5 hours and less than 300 miles of highway cruising. My instincts and knowledge are telling me its a bad idea, but a conversation about it cant hurt. Any help is appreciated, thank guys
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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Correct me if I'm wrong (anyone*) but I believe AA can send you a Simmons tool which flashes your Ecu. So drive to the shop, do your install, plug the Simmons tool with a stage one sc tune, and drive back with everything in place the way it should be.


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Old 08-25-2013, 11:43 PM   #3
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Hmm had no idea about that, I'll ask them when I call that would be perfect for me.

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Old 08-26-2013, 09:10 AM   #5
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Ive decided to pull the trigger and enter the FI scene. After a lot of research i have decided that the AA kit is the best fit for my application.

I was hoping some of the regular FI junkies around here or AA staff/reps would know if there are any promotions either going on or about to start up within the next month.

Due to the lack of tools i own at school, my installation options are very limited as i dont trust 99% of shops. I prefer to do all the work myself so my current plan is to drive about 4-5 hours to my brothers so we can use his tools and garage.

The problem I have is with the ECU. since I am a FI noob i figured I would ask anyway. Is it possible to drive the car without any chance of damage or problems with hurting the kit 4-5 hours on the highway, with the supercharger tune on the stock engine, or the supercharger install on the stock ecu.

the drive would be 4-5 hours and less than 300 miles of highway cruising. My instincts and knowledge are telling me its a bad idea, but a conversation about it cant hurt. Any help is appreciated, thank guys
I am glad to hear you pulled the trigger and picked up our Active Autowerke Stage 1 Supercharger Kit. As for the ECU you have 2 options first one is to pull out the ECU from your vehicle and send it to us or you can purchase a Simon Handheld programmer. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Looking forward to hear from you and see this build posted up.

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Don't drive the car without a tune. While you aren't going to be generating a lot of boost at low rpm, you're going to be using larger injectors than the ECU is expecting. It will run extremely rich.

Have an alternate method of transportation available in case the install doesn't work out over a weekend. You're taking a big risk in hoping that you don't break any parts (especially as a "FI noob" that's going to DIY); that everything that was supposed to be included with the kit actually was; that you guys don't get hung up on any piece in the instructions and have to wait on tech support; and you're able to get the job done (including all troubleshooting) in the time allotted while still "taking your time" with everything. If you think it will take a weekend, plan for three.
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Lots of good information thanks guys!

im planning on doing the install over a long 5 day weekend. Im confident that if I have all of the parts I will be able to get in done in time. Good to know my suspicions on not driving it without the proper tune were right though. I do have a back up plan incase everything goes wrong, which isnt uncommon with any type of car work haha.

The simon handheld is a nice idea, but for the price it might just be a lot easier to wait the extra week and ship the ecu out and just park the car and swap with my brother for a week.

Cant deny that im a FI noob, but hey you gotta start somewhere. from my experience i usually prepare for double the time that the install is supposed to take. Luckily i know e36s and e46s inside and out so im banking on that helping with a decent portion of the install. I wouldnt plan on installing it myself if i wasnt sure i could do it.

pokeybritches, i like your advice if i cant get a deal on the kit and simon handheld the 2 week option seems to be the path to take. Bottom line i want to do it right the first time.

Does anyone know from the past years what AA's typical promotions during this time of year are???

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Old 08-26-2013, 10:26 PM   #9
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I would get the Simon, especially if you plan to upgrade. I haven't used it before, but I think it would be a great troubleshooting tool should you need it. Nothing like being able to flash in the tune yourself. Just make sure you have a good battery charger.
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Don't drive the car without a tune. While you aren't going to be generating a lot of boost at low rpm, you're going to be using larger injectors than the ECU is expecting. It will run extremely rich.

Have an alternate method of transportation available in case the install doesn't work out over a weekend. You're taking a big risk in hoping that you don't break any parts (especially as a "FI noob" that's going to DIY); that everything that was supposed to be included with the kit actually was; that you guys don't get hung up on any piece in the instructions and have to wait on tech support; and you're able to get the job done (including all troubleshooting) in the time allotted while still "taking your time" with everything. If you think it will take a weekend, plan for three.
You are correct please do not drive the vehicle with the Stock ECU File on a Supercharged vehicle. Also if your going to be working on your car make sure you have a spare or beater car to get you around.

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Lots of good information thanks guys!

im planning on doing the install over a long 5 day weekend. Im confident that if I have all of the parts I will be able to get in done in time. Good to know my suspicions on not driving it without the proper tune were right though. I do have a back up plan incase everything goes wrong, which isnt uncommon with any type of car work haha.

The simon handheld is a nice idea, but for the price it might just be a lot easier to wait the extra week and ship the ecu out and just park the car and swap with my brother for a week.

Cant deny that im a FI noob, but hey you gotta start somewhere. from my experience i usually prepare for double the time that the install is supposed to take. Luckily i know e36s and e46s inside and out so im banking on that helping with a decent portion of the install. I wouldnt plan on installing it myself if i wasnt sure i could do it.

pokeybritches, i like your advice if i cant get a deal on the kit and simon handheld the 2 week option seems to be the path to take. Bottom line i want to do it right the first time.

Does anyone know from the past years what AA's typical promotions during this time of year are???
Congrats it was a pleasure speaking with you and getting all of your questions answered can't wait to see your build thread on your ZHP>.
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I was able to finalize things with Viral, he was very helpful and made the process go as south as possible.

Look for my build thread in the next month or so, it'll be a very good comparison as the car is completely stock.

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I was able to finalize things with Viral, he was very helpful and made the process go as south as possible.

Look for my build thread in the next month or so, it'll be a very good comparison as the car is completely stock.

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It was a pleasure dealing with you as well. Sweet can't wait to see this build thread to be posted up.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:39 PM   #14
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Most everything has been covered so I hope your install goes well and enjoy more power
Please be aware that regardless of what anybody says, very rarely is it "plug and play". Fi is a whole new world and one that has a learning curve. You are sure to run into something, somewhere. Before, during, after installation. With more power it will amplify any existing problems or weaknesses.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:32 PM   #15
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My kit shipped our a couple days ago!!x can't wait for Monday. I'll be starting the build thread with some pictures of the kit and a link to the official build thread. Only a few more weeks until installation

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